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Photographer Angelo Villaschi  Angelo Villaschi {Karma:49617}
Project #31 The Square Image Camera Model Canon EOS 10D
Categories Landscape
Nature
Film Format
Portfolio Landscape
Brasil 2005
Lens Tokina 28-80 @ 80mm
Uploaded 5/31/2005 Film / Memory Type ISO 100
    ISO / Film Speed 0
Views 1002 Shutter 1/125
Favorites Aperture f/5.6
Critiques 54 Rating
5.95
/ 22 Ratings
Location City -  São Roque de Minas
State -  MINAS GERAIS
Country - Brazil   Brazil
About For Danny Brannigan, Linda Fuentes and Roberto Okamura, who have been very encouraging and supportive with my B&W trees.

This is more typical of the cerrado, and even seems to have grown around its buddy termite hill, avoiding it and shielding it.

I thought this one looked best in B&W.

Some more work with PS here: a square crop, which I thought was right for this subject; layer with blending to burn in the corners; a blended fill layer to further burn in around the tree; a curve adjustment layer to boost the contrast with one of my saved curves; a channel mixer adjustment layer to simulate a green filter.

Some subtle toning with Duotone.

Help me learn by offering your demanding critique!
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There are 54 Comments in 1 Pages
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Aykan OZENER Aykan OZENER   {K:5996} 7/2/2005
Bravo well seen.Congrat..

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Marcia . Marcia .   {K:16108} 6/26/2005
Dramática... maravilhosas formas... belíssima composição!
Parabéns. Favorita! :-)

Márcia

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Rui Filipe Rebelo Prego Rui Filipe Rebelo Prego   {K:1213} 6/20/2005
Great composition and contrast!

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Angelo Villaschi Angelo Villaschi   {K:49617} 6/19/2005
Some very cool work on that website, Roger.

How is it working out for you?

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Romeo Victor Sierra   {K:325} 6/16/2005
dentro deste tema, voce tem coisas maravilhosas
os meus parabens por essa obra de arte
abraco

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Denise Harman   {K:662} 6/14/2005
This is the type of shot that is truly artistic to me... I think that the framing of the rock by the tree is superb. I like the understanding of Photoshop technique that is evident in your explanation of the shot.

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Mary Brown   {K:71879} 6/4/2005
I don't know how to do what you have done here, so I can't comment on the technique. However, I can certianly say that I really like the result. The B&W, and what you did, suits this very well. It almost looks like a drawing.
Mary

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Erland Pillegaard Erland Pillegaard   {K:34147} 6/3/2005
Wonderful picture and very well done in B/W

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Ian McIntosh Ian McIntosh   {K:42997} 6/2/2005
Looking on a different monitor am aware of nothing like the "blow out" I saw so there ya go!
It's perfect to my eye.

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Angelo Villaschi Angelo Villaschi   {K:49617} 6/2/2005
Thank you, Ian, for your excellent and honest comment.

That is not a rock: it is a termite hill. They are everywhere!

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Taufan Tirtayasa   {K:3} 6/2/2005
Good B/W

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Guido Fulgenzi   {K:6076} 6/2/2005
beautiful shot,great tones too!
regards,Guido

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Ian McIntosh Ian McIntosh   {K:42997} 6/2/2005
Nice form here, the tree's been living with that rock a while it seems by your framing.
Obviously you know what your doing (I've tried and failed to save curves thus far). The blow outs suggest a tad too much contrast to my eye still there is so much to see here!

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Paul's Photos Paul's Photos   {K:35235} 6/2/2005
I was just thinking that I should upload a new pic soon :)

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Roger Skinner Roger Skinner   {K:81846} 6/2/2005
strikes a chord alright...
http://www.progalleries.com.au/en/Photo/View.asp?P=125139944#
beaut shot

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Gina Barone Oliver Gina Barone Oliver   {K:1011} 6/2/2005
Incredible image! Love the square crop. I think some trees are just meant to be B&W.

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Giorgio Goretti   {K:15471} 6/2/2005
Excellent intro, excellent photo
GG

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Roberto Okamura   {K:22851} 6/1/2005
Opa!!
Parabéns pela sucessão de awards Angelo!!
Bela premiação pelo documentário!
Parabéns!
Roberto.

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Robert Höhne   {K:4290} 6/1/2005
An excellent shot. I would like to see more seperation form the background to get that tree to really pop off the photo. Really good composition.

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Ian Crean   {K:14866} 6/1/2005
Hi Angelo, my comment about focus was really reflecting on other comments here about softness and dof here than an absolute critique on the photo, meant more as a debate point and your answer is a perfect reminder that we must remember the most basic teachings when we can, if we don't follow it then it's down to luck and intuition. I've never owned an autofocus camera so my mistakes are all my own work!
Can't keep you and Linda off the front page lately, well deserved for your respective contributions to UF. Enjoy!
Ian

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Angelo Villaschi Angelo Villaschi   {K:49617} 6/1/2005
Thanks, Paul. Any new pics?

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Michael Kanemoto Michael Kanemoto   {K:22115} 6/1/2005
A lot of commentary. Not much else you could improve really - great shot, great eye.

Aside from hauling a ladder out to the same location to get more of the lighter background to surround the tree for more "pop" I think you have it.

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Barry Wakelin   {K:7838} 6/1/2005
Very nice B&W conversion and the crop is perfect. The composition works extremely well and the key elements stand out boldly from the background.

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Paul's Photos Paul's Photos   {K:35235} 6/1/2005
excellent composition.. nicely captured

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Angelo Villaschi Angelo Villaschi   {K:49617} 6/1/2005
Ian,

It would certainly be good technique to use the lens maker's markings for the DOF. Indeed I always do that... when ther ARE markings on the lens!


But AF lens makers no longer include useful DOF markings on their lenses. This is because AF lenses have less travel from absolute near to absolute far, thus making it faster for the camera to do the focusing. Any attempt at manual focusing is thwarted.


Not having a go at you, Ian. Just frustrating because I want the best of both worlds: fast AF with sure, precise manual focusing and manual focusing aids (you know, microprism, split center etc). Needless to say, I can't have both.

With Canon at least, there is an A-DEP mode: when on, the camera will select the focus distance and aperture to keep all 7 focus points sharp. I tend to switch that on, use it for the focus, then put the lens in manual focus (without movign the focus ring), switch to AV and select the aperture I want (usually a higher f-number). Kinda awkward...

Anyway, waaay too much about equipment.

I don't think the issue here was due to focusing distance. At the distance this was from me, and at f/5.6 I believe most of the leaves are in focus, but there is not enough tonal separation between them, or between them and the background. But I will check this again on the full-size TIF when I get home.

I'll probably collate all the wonderful comments and suggestions I've received on this photo and re-work some parts, then upload it in a new post.

Your time taken in commenting is much appreciated, Ian. Keep the suggestions and critique coming!

Thanks again.

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Patrick Ziegler Patrick Ziegler   {K:21797} 6/1/2005
demanding critique?
Well there is nothing to critique on this one. Marvelous! The relationship between the rock and the tree is the icing on the cake. The composition and the exposure are right on the money! Congrats on the front page...

Anything less than 7 would be an insult...

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Ian Crean   {K:14866} 6/1/2005
Angelo, I agree about the techniques and I too have been playing with digital colour filters in various strengths and seeing amazing differences in tones and contrast. The Wild Wood photo you commented on is an example of this.
The softness through the centre here is due to the leaves there extending towards you. The trick would be not so much to open the aperture more to blur the background but better to make the point of focus slightly closer to you to inlude all of the tree in the range of focus. Certainly I was taught how to ensure what I wanted in focus would be there by using the lens markers properly but so often it's easier to focus on the centre of the subject, set a mid range f stop and hope!
Nice photo and a good subject for B&W, there is good separation of tones from the tree to the background.
Amazing how the termites build their home under the shade.
Anyway, off to teach my grandma to suck more eggs now (a good old English expression)!
Cheers, Ian

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Linda Imagefree Linda Imagefree   {K:72276} 6/1/2005
Oh Angelo, thank you, so kind of you, and this is another wonderful tree, filled with character..I see that one of the branches has decided to branch out on it's own, (hehehe, no pun intended)..love that..I think "you done good" love the crop..I really like the way you isolated it..I think you did a great job with your tones, I just wonder if maybe some deeper darks in there might give it more form..but it's a wonderful image, and congratulations my friend on this very deserving award...Way to go, and looking forward to more of your wonderful work Angelo....Hugs..Linda

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Marcos Benedicto   {K:1100} 6/1/2005
Belissima foto Angelo.

Excelente PB!

[]?s
Marcos

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Angelo Villaschi Angelo Villaschi   {K:49617} 6/1/2005
Dear Margaret,

I am sorry for giving the wrong impression: all I know about wet darkrooms is the theory and how t o make an almighty mess! I am much more comfortable in front of the computer ;)

When I retire and the kids leave room in the house, I'd like to try going back o a wet darkroom and making mess again!

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Angelo Villaschi Angelo Villaschi   {K:49617} 6/1/2005
Hi Stephen,

Thank you for your very kind comment.

I am not sure what you mean about the DOF. Did you want a shallower DOF, with the background more blurred?

Or more DOF, with more of the background sharp?

I think a shallower DOF would have been a good idea, actually. Well spotted and thanks for the suggestion. I often forget to check all the settings, make sure the selected aperture is the most appropriate etc. Too braindamaged to move away from f/5.6-f/8 range... :S

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Margaret Sturgess   {K:49403} 6/1/2005
Congrats on front page Angelo, what an exceptional image, like a fine pen and ink drawing. I have read the comments including your reply to Petal, and admire your PS skills - and your knowledge of dark room skills. I only ever took the odd snapshot with a film camera and waited for the results. Den [Thompson - my partner] has often said what bits I do in PS are mostly what can be done in the darkroom. I think to have the dual skills of excellent photographer and PS skills is talent indeed. I 'play' with both and hope my few PS skills make up for my lack of photographic skills :). One thing I have not really mastered is good sepia stuff, however I thought this image would lend itself to those tones as well as the BW so have had a bit of try - will attach for you to see
Margaret

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Hanggan Situmorang Hanggan Situmorang   {K:37833} 6/1/2005
Dear Angelo,
The challenge to present this natural composition in BW is the contrast and details. The tree's details could be enhanced by sharpening it and dodge it, while the background can be burnt to darken it, and then the depth might be visible. Anyway, this is a very good BW photo. Congratulations for being featured critique..:)
Cheers,
Hanggan

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Angelo Villaschi Angelo Villaschi   {K:49617} 6/1/2005
Well done, Petal! You've made the front page!

Thank you very much for the excellent and wonderful comment.

The "work" here (and I guess you mean just the Photoshop work, i.e. the one after finding, composing, focusing and exposing the picture) is nothing extraordinary, nothing more than could be done with an enlarger in a darkroom, with some burning in, some filtering, selecting the right grade of paper for contrast etc.

Except the results are much more immediate and easier to achieve than with a traditional "wet" darkroom.

There was nothing "put in" that wasn't there, and nothing "taken out" that was. Not that I am radically against that...

This is the beauty of digital: I concentrate on capturing the right composition and details at exposure time, then I have so many options for the presentation... colour, b&w, simulate a filter (a green filter, in this case) etc. It makes making pictures whilst travelling so much easier: no need to take two camera bodies (one with mono, one with chrome), tons of filters etc.

It helps to have made a lot of mistakes with film cameras and wet darkrooms before. I sure had tons of those! :)

And I still make many mistakes with digital, except they don't weigh so much --- they just get deleted!

Regards,
Angelo.

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Roberto Arcari Farinetti Roberto Arcari Farinetti   {K:209486} 6/1/2005
review.. very excellent and today my new best congrats for the mainpage!
roby
ciao ciao

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Trish McCoy Trish McCoy   {K:15897} 6/1/2005
gorgeous tones and richness here.

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Petal Wijnen Petal Wijnen   {K:50989} 6/1/2005
Imageopolis Featured Photo Critique Beautiful shot in B&W!! Great shape(s), excellent crop and composition.... well done!!! Sounds like you did quite some 'work' on this shot (I stopped understanding what you did after the word subject... ;-D)... makes me somewhat curious as to how the 'original' one looked.... but it looks like a job well done...;-D!!!

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Fred Lord Fred Lord   {K:4844} 6/1/2005
Angelo: I agree, it looks great in B&W.

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Stephen Rogers Stephen Rogers   {K:3370} 6/1/2005
What a great shot. I love B&W photos however I don't have enough exp. to really give a lot of input. I might would like to see what it would look like with a little more DOF to really bring out the tree. But, then the detail in the surrounding would be lost. I still think that this is a great picture and will look through your portfolio for more. Nice work.

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Alvaro Ennes   {K:2605} 5/31/2005
Maravilhosa captura! :-)
Gostaria de convidar vc a conhecer nossa galeria: www.melgama.com/galeria/ - é uma comunidade fechada onde só entram amigos e amigos dos amigos.
Grande abraço
Alvaro Ennes

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sherif hussein   {K:13815} 5/31/2005
Excellent catch it look like real painting
Excellent work Angelo 7++++++++++++
Sherif

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Angelo Villaschi Angelo Villaschi   {K:49617} 5/31/2005
Thank you, Jeanette. But that is no stone: it is a termite mound, a wonder of nature engineering.

It's are hard as a rock, though! :)

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Jeanette Hägglund Jeanette Hägglund   {K:59855} 5/31/2005
Directly whe i saw this shot i liked it. The shape of the tree that follow the shape of the stone. Like a couple, old friends. Beautiful shot and so nice tones.

Jeanette

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Roberto Arcari Farinetti Roberto Arcari Farinetti   {K:209486} 5/31/2005
my friend..
immediatly in my fav.. and ki'm without words!
excellent
roby

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Burak Tanriover Burak Tanriover   {K:16610} 5/31/2005
a very interesting and beautiful tree,very well executed,best regards

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Angelo Villaschi Angelo Villaschi   {K:49617} 5/31/2005
Marcio,

A vegetação mais clara é fruto do tabalho no Channel Mixer. Inicialmente tente o efeito de um filtro vermelho. Não gostei muito e experimentei com outros valores, até chegar nesse, que tem +160 verde, e -30 vermelho e azul. Salvei como "Filtro Verde" :)

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Angelo Villaschi Angelo Villaschi   {K:49617} 5/31/2005
Thanks for the honest feedback, Alper.

I already used a blended layer to darken the vegetation around the tree. It was much brighter before.

The background has to be a bit brighter than the tree: the tree is dark and I need it to contrast with the background. No?

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Angelo Villaschi Angelo Villaschi   {K:49617} 5/31/2005
Hahaha, Danny. You really made me laugh!

Well, I had no need to carry the termite mound with me in the Brazilian hinterland: they are everywhere!

But I may just pitck the idea to Jessops: sell inflatable termite mounds as photographic props!

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Marcio Janousek Marcio Janousek   {K:32538} 5/31/2005
..sem dúvida uma otima escolha em B&W.
Ajudou muito também o fundo mais claro ,( é natural ? )ou então teria muita interferência. Bonita mesma fotografia. abços.

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Alper Tecer Alper Tecer   {K:7007} 5/31/2005
Excellent composition. I like square composition indeed. The tree does not seem so sharp as the vegetation at the bottom. Also the blackground in the middle of the photo seem brighter than the tree itself. Maybe some work for darkening those bright areas may help (with blending layers etc.) Regards. Thanks for sharing.

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Danny Brannigan   {K:19523} 5/31/2005
A good tight crop- super-thats what I like.Do you carry that termite hill in your gadget bag.Good pic.

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Marília Ferraz   {K:-4756} 5/31/2005
Arvores são mais lindas em PB.
Por que será?
Acho que a textura do tronco fica mais realçada, as folhas ganham mais volume e texturas também. Sei lá.
Sim, você deve continuar.
O trabalho é muito bom.
Um abraço.

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Roberto Okamura   {K:22851} 5/31/2005
Muito obrigado pela dedicatória Angelo! Isso é Usefilm.. ;)
Adorei a composição, a árvode parece se curvar como que protegendo o cupinzeiro!
O campo em declive bem iluminado ajudou no belo contraste da árvore.

Parabéns!
Roberto.

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Fabio Keiner   {K:81109} 5/31/2005
excellent

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