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In Transit
{K:29432} 8/19/2004
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One with a Heart... another with a Smile...
for all viewers to smile... and offer heartful thanks for sharing...
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Jan Symank
{K:22030} 8/17/2004
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Very interesting comments, a great reponse !
For me its also a beautiful and complete photo , I don t want to miss anything
The red heart and the diagonal line, very well composed
Bravo and regards from Jan
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Efisio Mureddu
{K:13104} 8/17/2004
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I like the way u play around :)
The red heart on the left drive me crazy.
I read a lot of your comments... really interesting and full of notice and suggestion.
Ciao Efisio
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Ursula Luschnig
{K:21723} 8/13/2004
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Hi Hugo,I feel not competent enough,to add anything to the technical sector,but can see,that this picture is full of movement...joy ...and life.I admire this kind of work.
Regards,Ursula
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Jorge Vasconcelos
{K:33746} 8/10/2004
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Excellent idea and more than enough know how to do it.I like it ,very much.
Regards
jorge
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Marcio Janousek
{K:32538} 8/10/2004
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this looks very interesting..wonderful work !!
My best,
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Raamses Ortiz
{K:4408} 8/9/2004
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Hi Hugo,
WOW, that the first that came out of my mouth. this is a great photo. I like the efect the long exposure gives it. Also the shapness and details. It feels like a ghost just passed in front the woman. Excellent!!
Congrats,
Be seeing you...
Raamsses.
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Peggy Christine Skinner
{K:26936} 8/8/2004
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This one has a more recent flavour and has all the excitement, swirl and whirl of a wedding party. The blur of everything going to fast, your mind spinning and hoping to take it all in so that you will always remember it.
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ana ribeiro
{K:21290} 8/7/2004
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this is the kinda image i love !!!!
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Eric van Houtum
{K:502} 8/7/2004
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Hi Hugo,
Absolutely typical shot for Josien! I'm starting to get very jealous over your flashunit deluxe...
Cheers
Eric
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John Hatziemmanouil
{K:40580} 8/7/2004
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So this and here I like the unmotioned woman she smiles to you and the 'fog' that makes a fastly motion person at the frond of her. Not at all bad tries my friend. I have also try something like that and I'll upload a couple of shots at the future.
Best regards!
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 8/7/2004
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Once more, Hi Lori... ) I'll add the background story to the next one too...)
Cheers,
Hugo
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 8/7/2004
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Hi Lori, That was EXACTLY my consideration... As I've replied to others, I think this crop is still the least bad solution... That doesn't mean I'm happy about it, though....)
Thanks!
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Lori Stitt
{K:75282} 8/7/2004
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Ahhh, OK...you see that makes such a difference! It's all the STORIES behind thos photos that really make the pictures!! Which is why I asked!
:)
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Lori Stitt
{K:75282} 8/7/2004
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Hello again Hugo,
Since I sent the first comment, I've been reading all the comments from others and your as well. I try not to read others' comments before I make mine and the rating. So, I've spent just a 'few minutes'...
At first I thought the second crop was good, I kept going back and forth looking and comparing. The main reason I liked the second was getting rid of that red thing around her neck whick I did NOT like, even though someone else did and made a good point about it.
However, I finally have decided that I really like your crop the best because the bottom one put the girs' face too much in the middle of the frame. That bothers me MORE than the red necklace/or whatever it is!
OI....I'm OUT OF HERE! LOL
Lori :)
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 8/7/2004
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Hi Lori, Thanks for your comment. She's not the bride, but a friend of hers, who enjoyed preventing me to take a photo of her....)
As to your comment about seeing more, I wonder what you'll think of the next one....) Hope your wish is granted!
Cheers,
Hugo
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Lori Stitt
{K:75282} 8/7/2004
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They do look like they are having a lot of fun. The expression of this woman makes the whole photograph for me since it's rather close up of her. Was she the bride? (just curious) Someone in the immediate bridal party? (I know...it was someone flirting with you!!! LOL)
I, just myself, would prefer to have seen more in the photo. Not quite so tight.
But I do like this very much, I like seeing the movement as opposed to all those dark shots with just one flash on the camers, adds so much more depth!
Nice image,
Lori :)
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 8/6/2004
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Hi Carlheinz, I do hope you didn't misunderstand my reply. I envy your skills and creativity alot, and that triggered me. What I'm saying, no need to be nice, I'm cool with any critisism you might have....) Completely allright. I value your comments and work highly.
Cheers,
Hugo
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 8/6/2004
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Hi Hermen, The lack of control over a long exposure with a slow shutter is definately the hardest part. That, and trying it with the D100. I don't quite know why, but the results I get with this technique using a film camera are of a consistently higher quality.
About the crop, I refer to my replies to both Verena and Carlheinz, The current compositon is not exactly what I had in mind, but I do believe this is the least bad solution...
This is mainly due to the purpose of the shot. When I shoot a wedding, I'm hired to capture the people and the things that are going on for the couple that is getting married. After all the compulsary shots during the ceremonies, I like to mix it up with these kind of shots. For that purpose, I don't think going to extremes artistically is a wise thing....
Thanks for your comments, I always find them very useful, indepth and challenging....
Cheers,
hugo
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Carlheinz Bayer
{K:14220} 8/6/2004
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Hey Hugo! No, you didn't catch that right. Your image and a few others I saw from you in the past with "that theme" is good, but I see "you're working on something", if you know what I mean. It will be hard for you finding somebody who is more interested like I am, seeing people trying new things. To judge images in the "experimental phase" will never be my intention.
I would love to do more experimental stuff on the streets, by myself, but will wait until I have a appropriate digi in my collection. I and I talk about myself don't want to waste film for that. My costs are already high with my kinda stuff.
All right? C.
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Hermen Pen
{K:9168} 8/6/2004
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Hi Hugo,
Sorry, I am to late again - most of what I wanted to say about this image has been said already :)
The smiling lady is nice, you captured the right moment. But I am sharing the concerns of Emgy about the surroundings - it's true that they give some impression of the atmosphere at the I party but in general I find them too distracting.
The second crop of Emgy is an improvement IMHO.
Slow sync flash is an interesting technique, the results are not completely in control (at least that's my experience) but that can also work out positively... So keep experimenting :)
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 8/6/2004
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Hi Carlheinz, Thanks for your honest comment. I've been struggling with the same things. I should've used a shallower DOF, but I was trying to figure out the difference between this kind of shot with my F100 and the D100. With the F100, i know better what I'm doing, but it took me some time translating those settings to my D100. The composition, although a bit unbalanced is IMO the least bad solution I could derive...)
Knowing your work and in retrospect to our earlier discussions, I don't think the last sentence is meant as a compliment, but yeah, that's definately one of the good things about a Digital Camera....) There are a few others, such as cost and time, but I still see film as the main thing. Untill I get myself a new scanner, I'll have to rely on the digicam....
I really wonder what you'll think of the next one... Your comments are always much appreciated!
Cheers,
Hugo
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Carlheinz Bayer
{K:14220} 8/6/2004
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Hi Hugo, I'm struggling with this one.
The things I like: the heart, the razorsharp blonde loughing girl and how you cropped the lady on the left.
And the other things: The DOF (you know my passion for blur; I think it's too sharp in general), the right thumb from the lady left, the thing under the white shirt guy. There is a lot of black space, too.
However, keep going. The biggest advantage from my point of view on digi is, that you don't need to waste film to do that kind of stuff.
C.
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Castillion .
{K:1570} 8/6/2004
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Hi, Hugo! Intresting unusual image... I like it very much... Playing with flash can be inspiring. Cheers.
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Antonella Nistri
{K:21867} 8/6/2004
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Excellent picture,Hugo,this experiment is absolutely fascinating. Hats off,really,great action image while retaining the details of the smiling lady.
Cheers, Antonella
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Roberto Arcari Farinetti
{K:209486} 8/6/2004
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just in my photo I have explained the "technique"..
many thanks for you great friend!
roby
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Ivan Jimenez
{K:9078} 8/6/2004
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I'm not a fan of cropping. This is what you got in the first place so be it!... She is the center anyway, and my eyes couldn't get away from her smile.
Cheers
Ivan
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 8/5/2004
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Hi Verena, thanks alot for your very kind words. I appreciate your "vote of confidence" about the current crop alot, as I felt a bit ambiguous about it too. Reading the other options I've received in the comments, I do believe this is the least bad solution...
Cheers,
Hugo
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 8/5/2004
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Hi Roby, thanks for your comment. I remember that shot. It works both ways, either you have a moving subject, or you just move your camera....) Works well in B&W too.
Cheers,
Hugo
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Verena Rentrop
{K:15233} 8/5/2004
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My dear friend Hugo,
the smile is so glorious, it shines through all the blurry effects around her. Please don't crop it more, the small heart is a great addition.
A bit distracting is for me the orange part on her forehead, anyway great playing around!
Cheers,
Verena
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Paul's Photos
{K:35235} 8/5/2004
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like the sense of motion and excitement... too bad the person on the right was not moving to balance the image... nice work
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Roy V
{K:13082} 8/5/2004
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Hugo,
Wow, Very Cool! Fantastic emotion, energy and expression. Original and Excellent.
Thanks for your advice on my photos..I greatly respect your opinion.
I hope your having a nice summer and it's great to hear from you.
Roy
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Roberto Arcari Farinetti
{K:209486} 8/5/2004
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BIG Hugo you have hit in the sign... you have developed perfect the game of the "Blurry", bloccando the movement one photo much dynamics of "normal persons".. I have applied to time ago (in WIND EXPERIMENT) one my idea... this I am beautiful
cheers
roby
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John Loreaux
{K:86210} 8/5/2004
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Perfect for the blurry image project Hugo!
I like the feeling of motion and the cheerful mood this photo depicts!
Very creative and well done My friend!
Congrats and best always.............JOHN
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Riny Koopman
{K:19998} 8/5/2004
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Excellent shot hugo with may details.
Ik wil je al vast bedanken voor je fijne reactie op mijn photo (Storm) Groet.....Riny
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Thilo Bayer
{K:50358} 8/5/2004
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Dear Hugo,
as always, I'm late ;-)
for sure, the different levels of sharpness and blur add some tension here. the dynamics comes from the movement and the heart necklace bouncing around (nice detail!).
the head coming out from nowhere irritates me a bit. my sense of depth is kind of drunken. what weighs more for me is the dark part on the lower right. It's nice that the dark dressed lady is just growing out of the darkness, but otherwise I don't see any sense of showing it. In other words: the composing is a bit unbalanced for me. If there is any cure with cropping, then I would crop the dark part away. not sure if that looks good, though ;-)
anyway. I appreciate your experiment a lot. I saw a rear-curtain image from Neil, and I will definitely go for some images as well. my old compact cam doesn't know such cuties like rear-curtain sync ;-)
Take care,
Thilo
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John Griep
{K:2521} 8/5/2004
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Hi Hugo,
Don't know what it is, but your photo generates a very close feeling to me, the smiling girl is SO real.
You know I'm not into people shots, but this is really nice, like the motion very much.
Looked at the crops from Emgy, but think yours still the best, more balanced in spite of the surroundings.
Groet John
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Rawabi Al-Nuaimi
{K:15659} 8/5/2004
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nice and very creative shot :)
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Regina Rianelli
{K:24147} 8/5/2004
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Dearest Hugo,
this is so nice!
i enjoyed the movement, the 'aura' created that really makes the lovely lady that gives You a beautiful smile stands out in very unique way!
Congratulations for such full of Life, inspirational photograph!
Love parties like that!!!
kind regards,
Regina
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Tim Schumm
{K:29196} 8/5/2004
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I have read what other have said about your photo and personally I like it just the way it is. It creates an unsettling feeling in me which I find a good thing the face is distracted by the motion but again the tension it creates makes it a good photo to me. Also all the comments made mean that it has lots of merit or we would not go into such depth of thought about it. All of this makes me think it is one of these moments of Genius that is hard ever to recreate.
FANTASTIC!
Reagards, Tim
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NN
{K:26787} 8/5/2004
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Hi Hugo! This looks quite messy, and is obviously meant to be that way. I?d vote for Emgy?s first crop as for the bottom (keeping the heart) BUT like the crop at the top of your own, showing the red haired woman and the man on her right side. Heart, smile and discussions; all vital elements at a wedding party!? :)
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Tim Schumm
{K:29196} 8/5/2004
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hey I missed this one some how. Fantastic image love the movement you have captured. it has such an engaging feel to it and so spontaneous as if I'm there in real time!
Cheers, Tim
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 8/5/2004
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Hi Neil, yeah, you're right.... Should've read my about first too....) I appreciate your honesty and openness, and I too like to comment before I read what others have to say about a specific image.... Repetition is fine, as it will validate the importance of a critique, which I'll always appreciate...)
Cheers,
Hugo
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 8/5/2004
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Dear Biliana, Thanks for your input. Very interesting thought. I would've never thought the lady on the left to be distracting, as she is, IMO, essential to this shot. Without her, I think this shot would lose most of it's impact....
And the people? Well, that's what you'll get at a party. Without people, no party...)
Cheers,
Hugo
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B:)liana
{K:30945} 8/5/2004
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well presented dear Hugo. good experiment, but the lady in left front is just distracting me and I think that you have too much people IMHO! But okey, I can imagine the confusion on a wedding dear
A kiss to your baby son
Kisses, Biliana
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Neil Dolman
{K:26883} 8/5/2004
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No problem Hugo, it was just a figure of speech and reflects the uncertainty of doing this sort of thing, you know in your mind approx. what it will look like but you're never sure 100% :) You said yourself in the "about" experiment. Sorry i didn't read Emgy's comment before writing to you. I like to try and keep my opinion fresh and not be influenced by others, although it inevitably means some repition for you!
Have a nice one
Neil
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 8/5/2004
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Hi Kostas, Thanks alot for your comment. I see what you mean, but I'm not sure how I could've achieved that.
I've used this type of shots frequently, (all quite soft and not much more profound than this), with all sorts of cameras. I feel the results I get out of my film camera is much more consistent and of higher quality than the shots I took with the D100. Lot's of digital rejects, of which I found this one, and the two to come, to be passable. Have you any thoughts on this? I'd like to hear them!
Hey, please do make suggestions of that kind, it only helps me review the stuff I've produced and learn....)
Thanks,
Cheers,
Hugo
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 8/5/2004
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Hi Neil, thanks for your comment... To keep it simple, I refer to the reply I wrote on Emgy's comment, as it explains most of what you cover...
The experimental thing / remark worries me a bit. I'd like to think this is more than an experiment, as I use / have used it frequently in this sort of situation....
Much appreciated,
Cheers,
Hugo
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 8/5/2004
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Hi Emgy, thanks for your elaborate and construcive comment. With fill flash shots, there's always an element of uncertainty about the composition, as the subjects are likely to move once the shutter is pressed, and the view through the camera is blocked by the mirror for about 1/4' s, untill the flash has fired.
I do agree the motion is solely limited to the left side of the photo. Ghe other people in this shot are merely peripheral, and I think the shallow DOF works to focus on the primary subject, the smiling girl.
I do share your consern about the composition, and of the two suggestions you make, I like the second one best too. The longer I look at it the more convinced I am that's what I should've done. I've been contemplating different compositions before uploading this one, but decided against it. First of all, but that's peripheral on UF, in light of this triptych, I deliberately choose this format and the current composition, as it required minimal cropping (same with the two that are to follow) Secondly, the reason I left so much in of the people in the background is based on a brief moment of interaction between me and that girl, but the other people present where of vital importance to that game.
I'm not quite sure how to value the "experimental type of shot" you mention. I don't quite see this as experimental (although I need to get better at it, I'm still guessing what to do instead on basing the camera settings on experience) Using a flash driven shutterspeed at suc an occasion, I think the (even in this case relative little) action is frosen to something static. The flash freezes everything, and obscures what is happening. The rest of the day has been filled with that type of documentary shots....;o) When I shoot a wedding party, I do tend to mix these two techniques together, though, as that not only shows the actual course of events, but also expresses the atmosphere.
I'm getting rather tedious here. Bottom line is, I can only agree with you if I consider this as a stand alone. But it isn't, but I guess I failed to show the peripherals... In that wider sence, I think I still would go for it's current composition, which I also used in their album....
Thank you for making me think about it differently, making me see the shot differently and for your elaborate imput. I appreciate it very much!
Cheers,
Hugo
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Neil Dolman
{K:26883} 8/5/2004
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Hi Hugo, a nice experiment and a good way to try out the SB800 modes. But now you've got me worried. I have to go to England to photograph a family wedding in 3 weeks and i've never done that before! I'm also not good at photographing people - they move :) Anyway to the photo.
I like the whish effect and the candid look of the person who's sharp. I would have prefered just a touch more light on her, but difficult for you to control that. I read Emgy's critique and felt that her second crop does bring something more dynamic/tighter to the image but then you lose the heart, which i feel passes in a wedding situation, but the arm is a little strong so maybe her idea of reducing that is a good one. Anway nice experiment.
Best wishes
Neil
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Emgy Massidda
{K:60358} 8/5/2004
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A second possibility (my favorite)
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Emgy Massidda
{K:60358} 8/5/2004
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Hi Hugo!
I'm always very interested in all types of experimental shots and I think that what you did here with fill flash and slow shutter speed is very good work. The motion/layer effect is great but, to be honest, I am not very enthousiastic about the composition of this photo. I don't like much the abrupt passage from the left to the right part of the image where the people on the background are too sharp, IMHO. They rather distract from the main subject, which obviously is the smiling lady. I like the way she is looking at the camera and she has a very pretty smile. I have been looking at this image for a while, to find out if my eyes could get used to the composition the way it is but, somehow the balance in it doesn't seem to be there. Although I generally like square format images, I know that, if the pic would have been mine, I would have considered cropping it in a way that the smiling lady, the eye-catcher, would be the only present human element. I realise that, cropping out the guests on the left, the party atmosphere you wanted to capture here - and which you did nicely - would be less accentuated if not absent at all. Nevertheless, for the sake of the composition, I would in this case sacrify what you call the "activity and dynamism of the wedding party" which, IMO, is pretty little anyway, as it is expressed almost exclusively by the presence of the lady standing on the right.
Please check the two possible cropping I've attached, and let me know if you like them.
As I said, I love experimental shots and I would like to see more of them taken with the same technique. I'm pretty sure you can make some stunning pics with it.
Best regards - Emgy
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Chris Spracklen
{K:32552} 8/4/2004
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Fascinating experiment, Hugo!!
The whole thing's beyond me in terms of technical know-how!!
Great sense of fun and movement you've captured!!
Best regards, Chris
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Kostas Tzanetos
{K:22012} 8/4/2004
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hi Hugo :-)
i give you the highest rating for experimenting in the exciting field of slowsync fill flash,but i'm afraid the image itself fails to move me. i think i'd like a more profound slowshutter effect with the beautiful lady as the main subject of the image - but it's your photo and i shouldn't make suggestions of this kind ;-)
so,keep experimenting,and don't stop giving us your well aimed and thoughtful comments :-)
be happy!
kostas
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Bart Aldrich
{K:7614} 8/4/2004
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Nice spur-of-the-moment grab shot that captures the feel of the moment.
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Richard Thornton
{K:26442} 8/4/2004
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Definitely a lot action depicted. The girl's smile in the center of the image kind of holds everything together. Hugo, all I ever do with my D100 is actuate the shutter. You are constantly pushing the envelope. Good for you!
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 8/4/2004
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Hi Stephen, Thanks for your comment, but dragging you away from hover flies? Noooooooooh! Can't be! Don't want to have that on my consience.... I think that even if you tried Really hard, you'll eventually fall back into the ol' habit....)
Cheers,
Hugo
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Stephen Bowden
{K:64141} 8/4/2004
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Extremely well done Hugo - this is something I have never tried before, perhaps this is something that will finally drag me away from hover flies ;-)
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Piotr Niewierowicz
{K:2401} 8/4/2004
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interesting image! I like it. regards
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Saeed Al Shamsi
{K:47735} 8/4/2004
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The front element adds an excitement into your image following this simple ghostly or blurs effect, but just as of thin layer, what actually give a life to the whole composition a big smile of the lady directly looking at the camera without disturbing effect. The others as of additional to the background. I like it,Saeed
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Orazio Minnella
{K:49417} 8/4/2004
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I found interesting your exspreriment made with motion of your model in the party wedding.
Hugs...Orazio
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Di Ciuccio Maurizio
{K:57398} 8/4/2004
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decisamente interessante e molto curioso..uno scatto tutto da scoprire..bell'esperimento..ciao hugo..a presto
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Maria Luisa Vial
{K:36017} 8/4/2004
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Hi Hugo excellent shot... I like the blur you created with the flash... It makes you feel the movement without letting you lose detail on the scene... Very original...
Cheers,
Maria
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