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Photographer Dave Arnold  Dave Arnold {Karma:55680}
Project #38 Photo Help Camera Model Canon 30D
Categories Still Life
Film Format Digital JPEG High
Portfolio Objects
Lens Canon 24-85 MM EF 3.5-4.5
Uploaded 11/3/2006 Film / Memory Type Lexar  1GB
    ISO / Film Speed
Views 646 Shutter 1/250
Favorites Aperture f/22
Critiques 34 Rating
6.50
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Location City -  Grants
State -  NEW MEXICO
Country - United States   United States
About I wanted to experiment with dropping something in water and since I have an abundance of apples that need harvested, I decided apple it would be. Not being prepared, I had to be creative in backdrops and props. Anyway, here is one of my first attempts at the motion capture.

I am putting this in the CC for some helpful critiquing. Most of the photos came out with the in-motion apple blurred. I did experiment with various settings but didn't have much luck. My question is, what are the best settings for photos like this, assuming good light. I used 250 f25 with ISO at 1600 for this shot.

Thanks in advance.
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There are 34 Comments in 1 Pages
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parehan .K parehan .K   {K:27453} 12/30/2007
Playing around, but also playing creatively! Very original idea to to freeze movement of waves.!! Love this shot it's Very impressive..
Best wishes for a Happy New Year to you my dearest Dave and your loved ones ..
parehan

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John Hatz John Hatz   {K:156973} 10/11/2007
HOLLY COW!!! AMAZING! YEA! like a basketball ...ball here spined on the water, amazing splash...if it has less grain...but again it's excellent idea and I think you must try it once again Dave...PLEACE!!! hehehe...if you don't, I'll do! :-D
Be well!

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Dave Arnold Dave Arnold   {K:55680} 12/28/2006
Thank you, Biljana, I very much appreciate the kind words and the visit!

Dave

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biljana mitrovic biljana mitrovic   {K:48110} 12/27/2006
Very unusual pictures.
I like it very much.
7++++ from me
warm regards
Biljana

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Paul Lara Paul Lara   {K:88111} 12/11/2006
The BEST light for this would be a strobe or camera flash, Dave.

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Dave Arnold Dave Arnold   {K:55680} 11/15/2006
Thank you Laurie. I must admit that is what I miss most of no longer shooting film, the multiple exposure on a single frame. That method you describe sounds great. I've never tried that.

Best wishes,
Dave

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Laurie J. Herndon   {K:5338} 11/15/2006
Dave, regardless...the shot came out great. Think most of this kinda stuff needs to be shot with a strobelite to get positively frozen action. I've taken a strobelite and set up this shot before also. It's fun to use a whole role of film and simply hold the shutter open while rewinding the film at the same time for multi-images on 1 piece of film without any frame breaks. Your experiment turned out well. Keep em commmmmin'

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Dave Arnold Dave Arnold   {K:55680} 11/6/2006
Thanks, AJ, for your complete information. I'll be trying again and setting up as you indicated.

Best wishes.
Dave

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AJ Miller AJ Miller   {K:49168} 11/5/2006
Good attempt, Dave. I like the vibrant colour of the apple, the star in the water and the shape of the splash.

I feel you could stop the motion of the apple a little more, and change (or blur) the background.

So I would go for a lower ISO but much higher shutter speed. Since you don't need much DOF you can open the aperture up quite a bit. This could also help with blurring the background. Summary: ISO 200 - 400, F4.5 - F8, 1/1600th or faster.

Then again, I've been dropping things into water for about a year and still don't think I've got it quite right...

AJ

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Alicia Popp   {K:87532} 11/4/2006
ja ja ja ... es inteligente Diablo!!!... lleva una sana alimentación...dile que tenemos los mismos gustos!
Me fascinan las peras, bien jugosas! Hummmm...
Dale un beso a Diablo y mímalo mucho!

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Dave Arnold Dave Arnold   {K:55680} 11/4/2006
Thank you, Paulo, appreciate your comments!

Best wishes,
Dave

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Paulo Sézio de Carvalho Paulo Sézio de Carvalho   {K:2273} 11/4/2006
Amazing capture!!! Beautiful style

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Shirley D. Cross-Taylor Shirley D. Cross-Taylor   {K:174022} 11/3/2006
HA,HA,HA!!!:):):) Poor Diablo! Maybe if you give him a bag of pears while you're shooting apples...;)

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Dave Arnold Dave Arnold   {K:55680} 11/3/2006
AIIIEEEE, Shirley.... I am trying to calm Diablo down... He feels your "shut him out" comment is worse than when I watch Dog Whisperer. I'll go buy him a pear.

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Shirley D. Cross-Taylor Shirley D. Cross-Taylor   {K:174022} 11/3/2006
You're welcome, Dave! Keep trying...looks like you're making progress...you might want to shut the dog out, though.;)

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Dave Arnold Dave Arnold   {K:55680} 11/3/2006
Thank you, Shirley. Nope, the flare wasn't added. The only changes were crop and slight levels change.

I thought this would be easier than it was....

Dave

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Shirley D. Cross-Taylor Shirley D. Cross-Taylor   {K:174022} 11/3/2006
I prefer the one with the black backdrop, too, Dave. The posted photo is very interesting...was the flare added, or just happened? Love your fruit-eating, fruit stealing dog!!!:)I've never done this either...seems very difficult.

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Aniko Heart Aniko Heart   {K:26503} 11/3/2006
Classic!!! :)

By the way... the black backdrop experiment worked a heck of a lot better! Good stuff!

Hugs~
Ani :)

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Dave Arnold Dave Arnold   {K:55680} 11/3/2006
Thank you, Emiliano. I appreciate your kind comments.

Best wishes,
Dave

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Dave Arnold Dave Arnold   {K:55680} 11/3/2006
Hi Chris and good to see you around these parts again. I'll keep playing with this... that light flare is the sun. I chose to post this particular photo because of that flare.

I lost my good light as the day wore on.

Best wishes,
Dave

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Dave Arnold Dave Arnold   {K:55680} 11/3/2006
Thank you, Udit. I agree about the background, too. I did use a black backdrop (and posted a photo of it in this comment string). Unfortunately, none of the black background photos were as dramatic of a splash and the blurs were just too bad.

Apprciate the input!

Dave

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Dave Arnold Dave Arnold   {K:55680} 11/3/2006
Thank you, Cessy. I appreciate your input. I was using a shallow baking dish. I like how the blue reflection on the water turns out from the dish itself but I am trying to figure out what to use instead. I'll keep playing.

Thanks again,
Dave

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Dave Arnold Dave Arnold   {K:55680} 11/3/2006
Hi Joggie and thanks. I must confess, your recent "strawberry drop" photo spurred me to try this on the spur of the moment. That is why I really wasn't prepared with a proper backdrop.

I did however find a black backdrop after this series with the woodgrain background. But none of the pictures of the apple and splash came out as good. Here's a picture using the black backdrop.

I agree, the woodgrain experiment just didn't work out.

Best wishes,
Dave

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Dave Arnold Dave Arnold   {K:55680} 11/3/2006
Thanks, Ani. Lots of trial and error here. At first, I held the camera and dropped the apple. Dididn't work too well, the lens was too close and kept getting splashed.

Next, I used this backdrop, a tripod and a remote release to get this shot. The backdrop is terrible as others have pointed out.

Then I went and found a black backdrop but soon lost my light so those pics were just terrible (I will be posting one of those photos in this string, though, shortly)

My BIGGEST problem is that my fruit-eating, fruit-stealing doggie kept stealing my apples between shots. Here's a picture of him grabbing one. Crazy boy, I've never seen a dog as nuts about fruit, though he prefers pears over apples.

Hugs,
Dave

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Dave Arnold Dave Arnold   {K:55680} 11/3/2006
Thank you, Jackie, I appreciate your kind comment!

Best wishes,
Dave

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Dave Arnold Dave Arnold   {K:55680} 11/3/2006
Gracias, Alicia. Fijaré un cuadro en algunos minutos de Diablo que roban constantemente mis manzanas entre las fotografías. Él ama comer la fruta, escoge las manzanas a la derecha del árbol. Él prefiere peras, aunque. Recuerdos, Dave

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Aniko Heart Aniko Heart   {K:26503} 11/3/2006
Interesting experiment, Dave!!!

I have never done any kind of a "plop" shot, be it apple or otherwise, so I cannot advise.
Just wanted to say it is interesting, and that it must have been pretty difficult to shoot.

Who dropped the apple... or how was it dropped?
I am not very imaginative right now. If it were me, I would have needed to ask someone to have a barrel of apples and give a signal when to drop each one, fervently working my camera using different apetures and shutter speeds. Then I would have torn my hair out waiting for the lab to develop and print the film... I still refuse to go digital... hehehe....

I ramble... lol... oooops...

Hugs to you,
Ani :)

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emiliano chionaky   {K:3135} 11/3/2006
very dynamic shot, great capture of mouvement, fantastic colors and composition.
awesome light reflecion on the water!
congratulations
emiliano

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Chris Boivin Chris Boivin   {K:9030} 11/3/2006
Hi Dave,
I agree with the rest here increasing the shutter speed will probably sharpen things up. As it is, it looks like a painting. Nicely composed and the flare in the middle of the water is cool.
All the best,
Chris

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Udit Chakraborty   {K:752} 11/3/2006
You have captured it nicely. I believe increasing the shutter speed might help with the clarity that you expect. The bg is a bit disturbing IMHO.

Greta capture anyway. Hoping to see more from you soon.

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cessy karina   {K:14205} 11/3/2006
Hi Dave
very nice try
I agree with Jogie here, I think you need more speed to freeze the moment
and maybe if possible not to show the blue plastic aquarium

cheers,
cessy

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Joggie van Staden Joggie van Staden   {K:41700} 11/3/2006
Hi Dave - Very interesting backdrop although it draws attention away from the real subject. I have not tried this myself but based on trying to freeze movement of waves I would make the following suggestions:
Go for ISO of 640 or less
Rather use a black backdrop
Shutter speed 1:1000/sec or faster
Use studio lights if available and/or flash

This is a question of the blind leading the blind - lets hope its towards the light! Regards
Joggie

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Jackie Curtis Jackie Curtis   {K:1864} 11/3/2006
Nice job stopping the action.

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Alicia Popp   {K:87532} 11/3/2006
Dinamismo, color, frescura... y mucha creatividad!
Sabrosa manzana!
Felicitaciones por la captura!

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