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Window Frost
 
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Photographer Jan Hoffman  Jan Hoffman {Karma:39467}
Project #50 Alternate Perspective Camera Model Canon Powershot G7
Categories Abstracts
Still Life
Photoart
Film Format
Portfolio Odds and Ends
Lens Canon 7.4-44mm
Uploaded 2/18/2007 Film / Memory Type ISO 200 - Sandisk 2 gig
    ISO / Film Speed
Views 786 Shutter 1/125
Favorites Aperture f/5.6
Critiques 67 Rating
6.47
/ 17 Ratings
Location City -  Catonsville
State -  MD
Country - United States   United States
About It has been bitter cold lately and every morning frost appears on the upstairs windows.
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There are 67 Comments in 1 Pages
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Sam Andre Sam Andre   {K:12484} 3/25/2007
It's an inovative concept, a window-frost shot. I'd never seen it before. Contrary to other oppinions, I like the various colors and other natural effects. I like natural processes in natural images.

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Stan Ciszek Stan Ciszek   {K:56854} 3/20/2007
It's gift for you my Dear.
Best wishes
Stan

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Jan Hoffman Jan Hoffman   {K:39467} 3/20/2007
Thanks, Stan. I really like your version of it. Good idea.
--Best to you, Jan

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Stan Ciszek Stan Ciszek   {K:56854} 3/20/2007
Hi Jan
It's just master photo, I love it.
Thanks for shering,
All the best.
Stan

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Jan Hoffman Jan Hoffman   {K:39467} 3/13/2007
Thanks, Tom. Good way to refer to them: "Ice Flowers". Very poetic.
--Best regards, Jan

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Tom Gessner Tom Gessner   {K:2030} 3/13/2007
This is a very nice abstract picture - I like the color and the sharpness from the ice flowers - well done

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Meg Metcalfe Meg Metcalfe   {K:6114} 3/4/2007
Yes you're right Jan, we should have gone through our last English winter and are looking forward to the move to Spain in late summer this year. As we will be moving inland rather than the coast we will be close enough to the snow covered mountains if we want to visit, but I'd much prefere to see them from a distance and of course in your photo's too! :^)

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Jan Hoffman Jan Hoffman   {K:39467} 3/4/2007
Thanks so much, Meg. I am sorely tempted not to fix the leak in this particular storm window just so I can have the frost and ice to photograph. As I recall you are moving to sunny climes and hope you happily leave the cold weather behind!
--Best to you, Jan

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Meg Metcalfe Meg Metcalfe   {K:6114} 3/4/2007
I think the differences in the background colours add interest to this gorgeous shot Jan… I haven't seen frost like that since the nineteen fifties when we didn't have double glazed windows and central heating to keep us cozy. I hate the cold weather myself, but I’m the first to admit that something like this is worth being cold for. A beautiful shot!

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Jan Hoffman Jan Hoffman   {K:39467} 3/4/2007
Motahare -- Thanks so much for your generous comments. I truly appreciate them. I will go over to your portfolio and take a look.
--Best regards, Jan

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Motahare  Okhovat Motahare  Okhovat    {K:337} 3/4/2007
Dear Jan,
This is just amazing ! the combinations of colors is great! It's more looks like a paiting!
I would be appretciate it if you check out my page and leave me your comments as a much more experienced photographer :) !
Thanks,
Motahare

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Jan Hoffman Jan Hoffman   {K:39467} 2/28/2007
Pun or not-- I appreciate the comment!!!
--Regards, Jan

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Paul's Photos Paul's Photos   {K:35235} 2/28/2007
very cool....... no pun intended :)

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Jan Hoffman Jan Hoffman   {K:39467} 2/27/2007
Luciano -- Thanks so much for your kind comments.
--Best regards, Jan

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Luciano Guimarães   {K:691} 2/27/2007
This is really cool (in the two meanings of the word) Jan. Congratulations for the photo, the details are perfect and the colors are great.
All the best,
Luciano.

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Jan Hoffman Jan Hoffman   {K:39467} 2/26/2007
Anna -- Thanks so much for your comment.
--Best regards, Jan

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Anna Bergel   {K:614} 2/26/2007
very nice...I like the shift in colors.. great DOF

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Jan Hoffman Jan Hoffman   {K:39467} 2/22/2007
Thanks, AJ. You describe pretty much what I am doing. Only difference is that if I go full res at ten mega-pixels, I cannot reduce the picture enough to get down to 400K. If I go the next step down it works, I just do not like the quality. I am wondering if the Adobe specific tool may not be good for this application and I might look for another tool to see if it is better.
Thanks again, Jan

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AJ Miller AJ Miller   {K:49168} 2/22/2007
Further to the RAW / JPG debate: I have fairly standard procedures for handling JPGs that I believe minimise loss of quality. I use PaintShop Pro 9, but I imagine the approach would be similar in PhotoShop.

I shoot JPGs at the highest size and resolution possible on both the Nikon SLR (6MP)and the Casio compact (8MP).

I do very basic processing like rotating images using PSP9 lossless conversion.

Then I make any adjustments (cropping, colour, contrast etc) and save the image in a native PSP9 format (also lossless).

Finally, I making any further adjustments that are specific for UF. I first resize exactly to a size that will, once any borders or frames have been added, be a max height or width of 850 pixels. Then I add the borders or frames, before saving the file as a JPG with a specific compression rate that results in the largest file possible just below the UF limit of 400k.

May sound messy, but it all runs surprising smoothly. I'd be interested know whether I am in fact losing quality and not realising it.

AJ

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Jan Hoffman Jan Hoffman   {K:39467} 2/22/2007
AJ -- First, thanks for the great comment on my picture. I really appreciate it. I owe it all to a leaky storm window that, if working properly, would have not created so much frost on the window.
As for the RAW, I still have and use it on the Canon Digital Rebel XT but do not have RAW on the new point-and-shoot. I have problems with the .JPG, being in lossy format, getting them down to the 400 K size for Usefilm and still maintaining quality. Still have not figured out the best resolution to shoot at. It is a ten mega-pixel point-and-shoot and I have a wide range of selections but still not sure what is best. In any event, I reduce them in size with the save to web option in Photo-shop CS7 but I am not happy with the results. If you have any advice on what resolution you use for shooting and what technique you use for reducing size that might help let me know. The RAW, processed at either 8 or 16 bit, never has this problem.
--Best to you, Jan

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AJ Miller AJ Miller   {K:49168} 2/21/2007
Oh, this one rocks! It's like loads of little icy fern leaves! And the blurry colours behind provide a great backdrop. I don't mind that dense blue area, though I suppose a more even background might be more aesthetic.

AJ

PS. Reading through the comments reminds me that I really must try shooting in RAW. I haven't done so up to now cos of an influential online Nikon buff who claims "don't waste your time" (or the space on my cheapskate limited capacity CF card...)

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John Melskens John Melskens   {K:-5433} 2/19/2007
So it is still good for something!
:-))

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Jan Hoffman Jan Hoffman   {K:39467} 2/19/2007
John -- Thanks for your comments. We have storm windows but on this side of the house we still get frost. If so many years had not already passed I would consider calling the window contractor and complaining! But at least I have the frost to take pictures of. :)
--Best to you, Jan

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John Melskens John Melskens   {K:-5433} 2/19/2007
It has been years since I have seen frost on windows like that. We all have double glass windows now.
And NO cold winters!
Nice picture, Jan.

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Jan Hoffman Jan Hoffman   {K:39467} 2/19/2007
Srna -- Thanks so much!
--Best to you, Jan

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Srna Stankovic Srna Stankovic   {K:172232} 2/19/2007
Dear Jan, in my opinion this is just perfect !!!
Warm regards, Srna

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Jan Hoffman Jan Hoffman   {K:39467} 2/19/2007
Erland -- Thanks so much for your comment.
--Jan

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Erland Pillegaard Erland Pillegaard   {K:34147} 2/19/2007
Great play with color
erland

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Jan Hoffman Jan Hoffman   {K:39467} 2/19/2007
Marlyce -- Thanks do much for the great comments!
--Best to you, Jan

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Marlyce Chastain Marlyce Chastain   {K:4071} 2/19/2007
The frost is gorgeous! Yes, the dark spot is mildly distracting but not enough to take away from the colors, shape and clarity of the frost. Looking at the color reflected in the frost you can tell it comes from the background object. Truly beautiful!

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Jan Hoffman Jan Hoffman   {K:39467} 2/19/2007
Jacques -- Thanks so much for commenting.
--Regards, Jan

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Jan Hoffman Jan Hoffman   {K:39467} 2/19/2007
Txules -- Thanks so much for your comment.
--Jan

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jacques brisebois   {K:73883} 2/19/2007
great capture, very nice colors and details.

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txules                                . txules  .   {K:62768} 2/19/2007
wow, such an eye, lovely image...txules

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Jan Hoffman Jan Hoffman   {K:39467} 2/19/2007
Dave -- Thanks much for your comments. The early morning light made the color interesting and I hope to get some more opportunities to shoot some more frost soon.
--Best to you, Jan

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Jan Hoffman Jan Hoffman   {K:39467} 2/19/2007
Robin -- Thanks much for your comments. I like the point-and-shoot but I sure miss RAW format. My son-in-law (Joel) has me hooked on RAW and going back to .JPG presented relearning a bit. Having fun and that is what counts; great to be able to stuff that little puppy in my coat pocket when I am out and about.
--Best regards, Jan

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Jan Hoffman Jan Hoffman   {K:39467} 2/19/2007
Thanks, Mel. I tried getting down a bit and shooting up but the camera had to be parallel with the pane of glass to get the frost detail in macro mode. Lensbaby is on the agenda for the frost. Thanks so much for your comments.
--Best to you, Jan

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Dave Arnold Dave Arnold   {K:55680} 2/19/2007
Jan, that is really a great close-up. I've seen frost photos but I can't remember them being so clear and consistent. Excellent background light also really enhanced these and their opacity.

Best wishes,
Dave

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Robin W Robin W   {K:16308} 2/19/2007
Outstanding detail and gorgeous color Jan...great little point and shoot you got there. Nothing more from me about the dark spot, just hope to see more!

Take care...Robin

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Ms. Mel Brackstone Ms. Mel Brackstone   {K:5285} 2/19/2007
Wow, I don't think this is anything I'm going to see in my lifetime. Wonderful patterns, Jan, and to be honest the background colours don't distract me at all. If you want to get rid of them, would you be able to get lower and shoot upwards to get sky in the background, or is it important for your camera to be on the same plane as the window? Have you tried this with lensbaby?

Hope it warms up soon, but not before you've shot some more frost on the glass! Best of luck to you......

Mel

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Jan Hoffman Jan Hoffman   {K:39467} 2/19/2007
Thanks so much for your comments. I used a macro setting on the lens at a focal length of 7.4 mm. I was about 1 inch from the glass.
--Best regards, Jan

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Jan Hoffman Jan Hoffman   {K:39467} 2/19/2007
Roger -- Thanks much for taking a look and commenting.
-Best regards, Jan

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1301307 60 1301307 60   {K:44058} 2/19/2007
wonderful abstract, interesting how these frost build up, they are like ferns. wonderful shot!
btw, did you use a macro lens for this shot..
regards.

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Roger Skinner Roger Skinner   {K:81846} 2/19/2007
beautiful... agreed re the odd bit in the centre really spoils an otherwise great shot

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Jan Hoffman Jan Hoffman   {K:39467} 2/18/2007
Sally -- Thanks so much for your nice comments!
--Best to you, Jan

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Sally Morgan Sally Morgan   {K:9219} 2/18/2007
Ooh pretty!
I like the colours in the background.
The frost looks so big - almost like feathers!

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biljana mitrovic biljana mitrovic   {K:48110} 2/18/2007
Dear Jan one big woof from Hogar and thanks from me
Biljana

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Jan Hoffman Jan Hoffman   {K:39467} 2/18/2007
Biljana -- Thanks so much for your kind comment.
Give Hogar my best and a hug. I hope he is doing well.
--Warmest regards, Jan

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Jan Hoffman Jan Hoffman   {K:39467} 2/18/2007
Michele -- Yes it does and thanks!!!!!
--Jan

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Michele Carlsen Michele Carlsen   {K:146013} 2/18/2007
Mine are Small and Fine. does this help Jan ?

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biljana mitrovic biljana mitrovic   {K:48110} 2/18/2007
Dear Jan this is just great!!!!
Warm regards
Biljana

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Jan Hoffman Jan Hoffman   {K:39467} 2/18/2007
Michele -- On the D40 your camera picture size options would be LARGE, MEDIUM, or SMALL. The each one has an option for FINE, NORMAL, or BASIC. Thse were the settings I was interested in.
--Jan

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Jan Hoffman Jan Hoffman   {K:39467} 2/18/2007
Michele -- I was asking about the file size setting on your Nikon (it is set up in the camera menus). You must have been referring to the upload size to USEFILM. The upload size to USEFILM is 400 K max with a maximum pixel dimension of 850 pixels per side. My question was aimed at finding an ideal resolution to actually shoot the pictures, not upload them.
As for USEFILM having a different limit on different days of the week, I never noticed because I always stay within the limits that they specify for uploading. Never tried to beat the system.
--Best wishes, Jan

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Michele Carlsen Michele Carlsen   {K:146013} 2/18/2007
I am glad You ask what happens on Sunday Jan. I think somebody else works at UF on Sundays or else I've just had some strange coincidences.... It's not happened to me any other day of the week so (??) but every Sunday I gotta make my pixels smaller .....
?????????????? Lol but It's True !!!
Michele~

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Jan Hoffman Jan Hoffman   {K:39467} 2/18/2007
Thanks, Michele. You are confirming my thoughts on this as the highest resolutions of the new camera are too big and lose quality when I try to scrunch them down to web size for USEFILM. The new camera is ten mega-pixels and just too much in JPEG to get them small enough. I have experimented and found that the 1600x1200 seems to be working OK and so is the 2272x1704. Those above that size are just too big to crunch down. Thanks for getting back to me on this.
What happens on Sunday? You get humble so you use a smaller size? :) :)
--Best regards, Jan

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Michele Carlsen Michele Carlsen   {K:146013} 2/18/2007
Hi Jan, Yes I am using JPEG and every day of the week I get by with a resolution of 1280x849 except on Sundays...
On Sundays I use 750x497 ... Dave Arnold has been trying to explain this to me but I haven't seemed to grasp it yet... It's just the way it is... actually You should ask him..He seems to really have it down...
--Best to You jan,
Michele~

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Jan Hoffman Jan Hoffman   {K:39467} 2/18/2007
Nessa - Thanks for your comment. It does look like ferns and makes you wonder about the mysterious forces of Nature that give shape and form to things.
--Best to you, Jan

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vanessa shakesheff vanessa shakesheff   {K:68840} 2/18/2007
Beautiful ..love it jan ..love the detail in the frost ..looks like fern leaves ..7/7..nessa

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Jan Hoffman Jan Hoffman   {K:39467} 2/18/2007
Michele -- Thanks so much for your nice comment!
--Best to you, Jan
PS: I have a question for you; on your new camera are you using RAW or JPEG format to transfer to your PC? If you are using JPEG, do you know what the resolution is from the camera (example 2496x1664 or 3546x2304 or some such)? I am trying to adjust my camera JPEG files to a reasonable resolution and am asking around to see what others are using.

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Michele Carlsen Michele Carlsen   {K:146013} 2/18/2007
WoW !! Beautiful Jan ....what a great Abstract of the cold frost ... Love the changing colors thru the window...Well done my friend !! 7/7
- Best wishes
Michele~

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Quix Photography Quix Photography   {K:20204} 2/18/2007
Bless... alas my camera does not shoot RAW so I'm not sure of the difference... someday I do want to find out though :)

Very nice effect, however it was come by :)

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Jan Hoffman Jan Hoffman   {K:39467} 2/18/2007
Thanks so much for commenting! You are right, now that you mention it. It does have an "IR" feel to the colors. I have been testing a new point-and-shoot for the last couple of days and using its macro feature has been fun. It does not support RAW format and working again with native .JPG files has been driving me nuts.
--Best to you, Jan

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Jan Hoffman Jan Hoffman   {K:39467} 2/18/2007
Joe -- Thanks so much for your comments. As I said above to Tony, I agree 100% about the distraction. I need to find a different window with some interesting frost and will try again.
--Best to you, Jan

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Jan Hoffman Jan Hoffman   {K:39467} 2/18/2007
Tony -- Thanks for your comments -- I agree with you about the distractions out the window like the darker color masses. I tried shooting from different angles and thought about some PS work and then said "NAH!". I will keep an eye out for better opportunities but I think they will need to be different windows that do not have outdoor distractions behind them.
--Best to you, Jan

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Quix Photography Quix Photography   {K:20204} 2/18/2007
Gorgeous macro... look almost like infrared ferns! :)

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Joe Brown Joe Brown   {K:23213} 2/18/2007
Beautiful frost patterns. Great details, The colours are very nice. I have to agree with Tony that the blue area near centre distract somewhat from the beautiful frost. Well done,

Have a great day,
Joe

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Tony Smallman   {K:23858} 2/18/2007
Wow!What beautiful detail;very much one for the patterns in nature project.Pity about the dense blue area just off centre.I do hope the frosts continue so you can post some more shots like this one.
Best regards, Tony

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