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Photographer Ina Nicolae  Ina Nicolae {Karma:44481}
Project #43 Unusual Vision Camera Model Panasonic FZ-10
Categories Photoart
Portrait
People
Film Format
Portfolio People
PhotoArt
Lens Leica - Fixed Lens
Uploaded 11/12/2005 Film / Memory Type 4MP Digital Camera
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About For Veterans Day: my Grandfather - World War I.
Sorry - this is a repost, something wasn't right, I've added all your comments, thanks!
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Ina Nicolae Ina Nicolae   {K:44481} 11/24/2005
Thanks Mark :)

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Mark Beltran   {K:32612} 11/24/2005
I'm sure he would like this. I sure do!

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Ina Nicolae Ina Nicolae   {K:44481} 11/23/2005
Hi mundh, don't worry about commenting, better spend your time taking pictures!

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mundh    {K:3974} 11/23/2005
hello Ina, i am soo sorry i didnt comment ur pictures during the past few days. i was on a vacation in Egypt n so i am back now with lots of good pictures to share with my UF friends. n so here i start from this. it seems u hv changed ur style, itsnt it. so it means ur grandfather is a hero. thats really cool

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György Szönyi György Szönyi   {K:10011} 11/20/2005
Thanks for the explanation, Ina. It sounds a little cumbersome, though. CHeers, Gy.

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Ina Nicolae Ina Nicolae   {K:44481} 11/18/2005
Thanks very much Bob for your nice comment :)

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Ina Nicolae Ina Nicolae   {K:44481} 11/16/2005
Thanks very much, Bob!

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Ina Nicolae Ina Nicolae   {K:44481} 11/16/2005
Hi Gyuri, sorry for my slow response. To repost an image, I first save the entire webpage. In Internet Explorer: File>Save As. Once you have saved the whole webpage in your computer, you'll have the picture and the old comments. The only way to repost the comments is to copy and paste in a new comment on the repost - one that will appear as coming from you (the hyperlinks to your original commenter are not saved). Even with copy & paste, your comment will appear in the comment box as 0 (zero) characters in length. You have to type a space, or something in order for it to register. Only when you see the length different from zero, you know it will register. I guess this is a feature (just my guess) to prevent someone from copying and pasting and adding the same comment to multiple users, such as "Great composition! Nice colors!" - Hope this helps. Regards, Ina

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Ina Nicolae Ina Nicolae   {K:44481} 11/15/2005
Still, on this image, Mark, with regard to the placement of the figure to the side, there were two determining factors: one, the slight slant of the water, as if the figure and chair are slowly sliding away; second, the small blue wave location which dictated the chair placement alongside its shadow, and worked with the slant in creating the slight imbalance and sliding. Also, I liked the fact that his cap is off, placed on the table, as if to say that war was over, although a new wave is coming. It could be interesting to try a version with your suggestion of flipping the background, I might incorporate it into another version later on. Thanks, Mark!

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Mark Longo Mark Longo   {K:12760} 11/15/2005
Ah, to add more weight and sobriety. Your use is very effective to that purpose. This had not occurred to me but I see exactly what you mean. The weight and sobriety help keep this from becoming a cartoon. The size of your bars is a key. And as you say, it does tend to focus the viewer's gaze a little more. Clever choice.

Mark

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Ina Nicolae Ina Nicolae   {K:44481} 11/15/2005
Hi Mark, thanks for the comment with regard to the black frames. I know you use this format on many of your pictures, sometimes with a thin border line, and they work quite successfully, I must add. You are right that in my case the look is that of a 35mm, and not a panoramic format. I used the black bars to encase the image, and add it more weight and sobriety; also, to cut the viewer's gaze from wondering about, and cut the luminosity of the white web page background; and last, but not least, to cut the wave at a point where there is no indication of how big the wave is, to add the possiblity of a bigger wave than the one in the original take. Thanks for your great comment! Regards, Ina

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Ina Nicolae Ina Nicolae   {K:44481} 11/15/2005
Hi Tracey, I've been thinking about the bars since there were a few comments on them. I'll tell you what they do for me, in my opinion: they add weight and sobriety to the image. They isolate the image - cut your view, stop your eyes from wondering above and below, forcing you to concentrate on the subject. And they strengthen the colors against the UF white background. I'm not a frame fan, but the image seemed weaker w/out them in this case. Thanks for your comments! I really appreciate the attention! Regards, Ina

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Tracey MacLeod Tracey MacLeod   {K:3244} 11/15/2005
I like your crop the other was to wide and did not put emphasis on the images this makes you pay attention to your grandfather more!(a lovely tribute...I did one with my father (Korean War) but it needs to be reworked!!! ) what great pics to work with though!) as far as the black bars I'm undecided about they make the vibrant coloring of your water stand out... but then again I'm kinda anti- bar.... I like the symbolizm of him sitting in the water so cordially open to a couple of interprtations!
Very wonderful!

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Bob Walker Bob Walker   {K:1066} 11/15/2005
Hi Ina,
You've been doing some wonderfully interesting work lately with these compositions. This one is my favorite. Excellent colors and comp.

Best regards,
Bob

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György Szönyi György Szönyi   {K:10011} 11/14/2005
Very fruitful continuation of your new project, Ina. I like the sinking chair, somebody from the past, being almost washed away by the tide of time, still lingering on (in memory) at least still for some time... Powerful statement. (...) SOmething else: how do you repost an image and keep the old comments? I have not been able to figure this out. Thanks for the tip in advance: Gyuri

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Mark Longo Mark Longo   {K:12760} 11/14/2005
One other comment as I look at this image some more. It might have been interesting to position the figure a little to the left of frame so that his crossed leg is placed near the center of the frame. This might give the scene a little more even balance. You could do a horizontal flip of the background layer (layer->"flip horizontal" in PS I think) in order to make space for the figure under the curling wave. Just an idea...

Mark

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Mark Longo Mark Longo   {K:12760} 11/14/2005
Looking over the comments I see that I have come late to the party on this image! I wish I had more time to keep up with the great artistry so common here at Usefilm!!

Anyway, just to add my voice to the group, I like the crop of this, as well as the coloring of the water. I espcially think that the little waves where the water and the figure in the photo meet are well done. This places the figure in the scene, a major achievement considering the contrast of the figure's image type and je background. The surreal nature of it is perfect though! Bravo Ina, you have real hit on something out of the ordinary (in SO many ways!). Great execution of a wildly imaginative idea.

On the borders, as you know I commonly use black (or dark) bands at top and bottom of certain of my images. I find that they tend to make the crop look wider and shorter, since they make the actual image space within the crop shorter. This creates an illusion taht the image is wider. This is most noticable when you have a wide image to begin with. I have added dark bands at top and bottom when I have done wide "letterbox" style crops, which I prefer as a simple matter of personal taste. When there are long horizontal lines or some form of horizontal interest in the shot this sort of framing seems to accent that and also bring a panoramic flavor to the look. It also adds a cinematic quality to the shot that can be appealing.

In the case of the shot on this page, the bands bring a sort of classic 35mm image shape to the image. Though since the sum of the image plus the bands is a roughly square crop, rather than oblong, I think the elongating effect of the bands is limited and they somehow become a bit more noticable. Interesting effect though.

And bravo on a stellar work!

Mark

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Andrzej Pradzynski Andrzej Pradzynski   {K:22541} 11/14/2005
Ina, I don't know if I have anything else to say. Great job with the beautiful effect and a very symbolic message. It's truly an art piece to enjoy. Anyway this time it's a tribute to family ancestors and the veterans. Cheers, n.j

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Gustavo Scheverin Gustavo Scheverin   {K:164501} 11/14/2005
Gran fotomontaje, qué dramatismo!
Felicitaciones!

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Mohamed Banna Mohamed Banna   {K:34237} 11/13/2005
Ina, i miss you , your work and your comments

amazing and great composition
i love the color contrast here
i love the great artistic vision for the composition
well done as always
will try to catch the rest of your superb work

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Ina Nicolae Ina Nicolae   {K:44481} 11/12/2005
Thanks Brian!

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Brian Fillmore Brian Fillmore   {K:4016} 11/12/2005
Very nice. Confident pose amongst the crashing surf in a chaotic time that I can't imagine what it was like to endure.

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Ina Nicolae Ina Nicolae   {K:44481} 11/12/2005
WOW, That poem is so fitting, I got the goosebumps reading it. It is tremendous, and so close in its description to my second image, it is uncanny. Thank you so much, John! I really, really appreciate it. I have not only family pictures from the 20's and 30's, but also a stereoscope from my grandfather, with a small collection of postcards. I may look into scanning those. Thanks so much, and have a wonderful weekend! Best regards, Ina

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. .   {K:16329} 11/12/2005
Romanian .... I should have made the connection to your name. A King's Guard ........ explains the braiding on his regular tunic. You're fortunate to have these ....... and when I see these pictures this poem of Rilke's always flows through my mind:

In the eyes: dream. The brow as if it could feel
something far off. Around the lips, a great
freshness--seductive, though there is no smile.
Under the rows of ornamental braid
on the slim Imperial officer's uniform:
the saber's basket-hilt. Both hands stay
folded upon it, going nowhere, calm
and now almost invisible, as if they
were the first to grasp the distance and dissolve.
And all the rest so curtained within itself,
so cloudy, that I cannot understand
this figure as it fades into the background--.

Oh quickly disappearing photograph
in my more slowly disappearing hand.

[Portrait of my Father as a Young Man]

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Ina Nicolae Ina Nicolae   {K:44481} 11/12/2005
Happy Father's Day, and I'll be back Tuesday :)

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NN  NN     {K:26787} 11/12/2005
Thanks Ina, hope you enjoy your weekend as well (it?s Father?s Day tomorrow in this part of the world) :)

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Ina Nicolae Ina Nicolae   {K:44481} 11/12/2005
Thanks Gabriela, always like to hear from you :)

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Ina Nicolae Ina Nicolae   {K:44481} 11/12/2005
Hi Elisa, the only reason I cropped the wave at the top, was to make it seem like a larger wave, because you don't see past the top. Thanks, for the comment, and thanks for taking interest in this! I'll be on and off again till Tuesday, may not reply as soon as I'd want to! Have a great weekend, Ina

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Gabriela Tanaka Gabriela Tanaka   {K:16594} 11/12/2005
A great piece of work!!!And strongly emotional!
I am so impressed that I cannot find the words....
Gabriela

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NN  NN     {K:26787} 11/12/2005
After seeing the original take, I think you cropped it just perfectly, and I do like the borders as well!

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Ina Nicolae Ina Nicolae   {K:44481} 11/12/2005
Thanks for your nice comments, Jezabel :)

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Ina Nicolae Ina Nicolae   {K:44481} 11/12/2005
Thank you Steve for the time you took to do the crop. I might redo this image at a later date, since I've used a low resolution image - I could re-scan Grandpa's picture to a higher res. for a better quality. Also, it's interesting to see how other people would handle it. Very much appreciated. Regards, Ina

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Steve Aronoff Steve Aronoff   {K:18393} 11/12/2005
Ina, frankly I like the picture you've posted without the border, but I have attached a cropping suggestion that I think works very well. I think I forgot to add that it's a super tribute no matter how you cut it.

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whoiswho t whoiswho t   {K:10700} 11/12/2005
dear Ina,
first thank u so much your kind and wonderful comments to my portfolio. Your commnets so estimable for me.

this work wonderful! i loved so much blue-orange contrast and the man so powerful front of the stage. i think totally the work like an canvas about vintage years.

thank u so much again.
my best regards,
jezabel.

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Len Webster Len Webster   {K:25714} 11/12/2005
This is very powerful. Well done.

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Ina Nicolae Ina Nicolae   {K:44481} 11/12/2005
Hi John, and thanks for your comment. I'm glad you like it!
The uniform is from Romania. And I have pictures with a more elaborate uniform, from the Royal Guard (I think) - see below:
Also, there is a gold lining to the wave.
Best regards, Ina

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Another uniform


Ina Nicolae Ina Nicolae   {K:44481} 11/12/2005
Thank you Christopher :)

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Ina Nicolae Ina Nicolae   {K:44481} 11/12/2005
Thanks very much Kathy :)

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Christopher Peace   {K:1340} 11/12/2005
Very unusual, but I love it.

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Kathy Hillard Kathy Hillard   {K:25721} 11/12/2005
Very creative, Ina! This is such a colorful image...and I agree that the border enhances this shot. A very nice tribute to the veterans and especially to your grandfather! Well done!
Kathy

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. .   {K:16329} 11/12/2005
My first impression was to pull the brake on the background colors ........ but now I think otherwise. Cutting the wave below its crest is correct, otherwise it would look like a picnic by the seashore. Good symbolism .......the engulfing tide. Interesting image, and very nice visually ...... the design is well done ....... I like it ....... and not the least because it's such a fresh view of these WW1 military portraits.

btw ... The cut of this single breasted tunic is simply elegant and the best I've seen. The French had a similar one, as did the US Artillery, but not as nice as this one. I'm guessing Austro-Hungarian? ............ cavalry? ......... the cap really throws me so I'm not sure. Anyway, If this had been my era I would not have minded winding up in Flanders fields if I could have been buried in a tunic handsome as this one :)

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Ina Nicolae Ina Nicolae   {K:44481} 11/12/2005
Thank you Susie!

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Susie OConnor Susie OConnor   {K:34798} 11/12/2005
My goodness Ina! You are so creative, both with your artists eye and your PS work. Nicely done. Such vivid colors. I think the border is a nice addition.

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Ina Nicolae Ina Nicolae   {K:44481} 11/12/2005
Thank you Neal, I'm happy that you found meaning in my image. I like to leave the meaning to the viewer's interpretation, and certainly the wave represents history, or war, or both. I wanted to make people think, because another idea here is, that if we don't remember, we will repeat the same mistakes. Very nice of you to comment, thanks! Best regards, Ina

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Neal Nye   {K:15827} 11/12/2005
This is a wonderfully profound image Ina. I see the waves of history crashing over those who think war is a solution to problems. Or maybe it's a brave individual threatened by the inexorability of war's chaos, given human nature. There are undoubtably many interpretations. It's a very impressive presentation.

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Ina Nicolae Ina Nicolae   {K:44481} 11/12/2005
Trust me, Steve I tried more versions with and without border than I can remember! Here is what I started with (see below) - if you look at my portfolio I have practically nothing with borders. It wasn't my initial choice, but I think here it was necessary. Please feel free to crop the image below as you think it should look. I always like to see alternatives! Thanks for your comment, Ina

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Original Take


Ina Nicolae Ina Nicolae   {K:44481} 11/12/2005
Andre Denis (Donor) (K:11,635) - Nov 11, 2005
Very nice work Ina. The waves are a perfect analogy for the way war overwhelms man.
Andre

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Ina Nicolae Ina Nicolae   {K:44481} 11/12/2005
Hanna Segal (K:11,056) - Nov 11, 2005
Lest we forget... Great shot for Remembrance Day

Smashing! I wish I could pin a little poppy on it:)

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Ina Nicolae Ina Nicolae   {K:44481} 11/12/2005
jezabel (Donor) (K:6,575) - Nov 11, 2005
wonderful! great work.

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Ina Nicolae Ina Nicolae   {K:44481} 11/12/2005
Endre Novak (K:10,377) - Nov 11, 2005
Nice artistic work, excellent painting effect. Like the colour combination and the about, too.
My best,
Endre

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Ina Nicolae Ina Nicolae   {K:44481} 11/12/2005
Roberto Arcari Farinetti (Donor) (K:106,690) - Nov 11, 2005
fine art..
;)
roby

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Ina Nicolae Ina Nicolae   {K:44481} 11/12/2005
Ahmed Ismail (K:5,941) - Nov 11, 2005
A very nice tribute! I like the effect and the colors used.

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Ina Nicolae Ina Nicolae   {K:44481} 11/12/2005
Riny Koopman (K:18,805) - Nov 11, 2005
Nice portrait and gives a plesant feel to the photo
Thankx for sharing with us! Riny

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Ina Nicolae Ina Nicolae   {K:44481} 11/12/2005
Elisa Svensson (K:16,255) - Nov 11, 2005
Hi Ina! A touching tribute! Love the colours you?ve chosen here; the blue calm water contrasting with that huge brownish - and threatening - wave. GREAT!

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Ina Nicolae Ina Nicolae   {K:44481} 11/12/2005
abhra aich (K:2,174) - Nov 11, 2005
NICE WORK DONE IN PS.

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Ina Nicolae Ina Nicolae   {K:44481} 11/12/2005
Dave Stacey (Donor) (K:12,522) - Nov 11, 2005
An unusual image, but a fine dedication, Ina! My grandfather also served in that war, and my father in the next, so I appreciate your thoughts.
Dave.

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Ina Nicolae Ina Nicolae   {K:44481} 11/12/2005
Robert Kocs(K:22,037) - Nov 11, 2005 :
Excellent!!! Very artsy, well captured! Very creative fine work! Well done dear Ina! :)

My best regards!
Robert

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Steve Aronoff Steve Aronoff   {K:18393} 11/12/2005
I like the photo a lot. I don't think the black border helps. When I see only the center portion on my screen it really pops out. I suppose that part of it is that the border makes the picture seem like some country's flag.

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Ina Nicolae Ina Nicolae   {K:44481} 11/12/2005
Ann Nida (K:12,053) - Nov 11, 2005
Oh yes it is Vet's Day indeed. My husband is a vet and I told him "Happy Rodney Day" this morning. :)

This is a wonderful tribute Ina. The water is very dramatic in those vivid colours. The wave being a very earthy colour and the smoother water being so blue makes for a stunning image to behold. Your grandfather's image in the sepia tones sitting in the the chair in the water gives me an image of the water washing away the pain of war. We are to remember those who fought for they are at rest now. A very touching and thoughtful image Ina. Thank you for the tribute.

Ann :)

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