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Roger Williams
{K:86139} 8/5/2004
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Valentin: It was an interesting discussion, and I see you ended up with a digital camera that I admire--the D70. (My friend has one). I'll visit your portfolio again to see what you've been doing with it... Thanks for the comment, by the way
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The Armed Eye
{K:3563} 8/4/2004
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Hi Roger,
cropping to improve a given frame is always walking on thin ice, there is a contradiction between getting all
elements under the rules of composition without loosing essential information.
Tried about 7 versions, this is the one i would like best.
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Valentin Enriquez
{K:444} 8/4/2004
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Hi!
I like the cropped version of this wheel... it fills the frame and it looks more interesting...
ps Thanks for your comment on my quetion about film and digital
Regards
Valentin
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Paul Lara
{K:88111} 7/31/2004
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I like the tightly cropped version the best, Roger. In the wider shot, the waterfall lower left competes for the eye, and introduces some elements across the river, which I think detracts from the soft, intimate feeling the mossy wheel brings on its own.
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Keith Naylor
{K:13064} 7/31/2004
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Hi Roger,
well before I read all the other comments, and especially Hugo's, I downloaded you image and did this to it ....
I think the tighter crop makes the eye fall onto the real subject, and widening it out just adds clutter, and lets the eye out to do its own thing.
K
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 7/31/2004
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Hi Roger, there are always two sides to a comparison. I for one would opt for the close crop, which, IMO could've been cropped even more closely. The overview places the waterwheel into perspective with the surrounding environment, which could be perceived as distracting from the main subject. On the other hand, It is a nice, lively shot, and the canal next to the water wheel is very nice, and surelydds to the composition
The cropped version focuses more on the primary subject, removing the peripheral information, leaving it up to the viewers' imagination. I prefer the cropped version, mainly because of that reason.
A closer crop would / could've made it more abstract, removing all reference to the "external world". See attached image...
Cheers,
Hugo
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Chris Spracklen
{K:32552} 7/31/2004
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I think both work well, Roger! In fact, I'm hard pushed to choose between them. If anything, I think I marginally prefer the uncropped version ~ mainly because the guy in the swimming costume, (between the top spokes of the wheel) is a little less obvious!!! :-)
Both are very nice though.
Kind regards, Chris
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Michael Sean Fleming
{K:2267} 7/31/2004
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It's a hard call Roger. I like the detail visible in the tighter crop, but there are some interesting elements in the wider view. I think I would probably have compromised and gone for a slightly less severe crop to at least give a hint of the surroundings.
On second thought, I think you made the right choice in eliminating all distractions from the mossy wheel.
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Margaret Sturgess
{K:49403} 7/31/2004
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Roger I much prefer the cropped version, the focus stays with the wheel. This is turn draws the eye to the moss and the water falling from it into the stream below. On the way down the eye is caught by the lovely image of what looks like a bird box with it's wonderful 'thatched roof'
Excellent
Margaret
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Regina Rianelli
{K:24147} 7/31/2004
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You are very welcome, my Friend!
*sparkle*
Thanks for letting us work along with Your creations as well! i loved it!!!
my Best,
Regina
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Roger Williams
{K:86139} 7/31/2004
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Now I really hadn't thought of that, Regina... and it works quite well! Thanks for the suggestion.
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Regina Rianelli
{K:24147} 7/31/2004
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Dearest Roger,
i really enjoyed the way You cropped the photograph, my Friend... but i guess i fell in love with the duckilings swimming down bellow...
i would do anything to save them and have them IN the picture, that is, cropping as i humbly suggest here...
pls let me know what You think, Okay?
kind regards,
Regina
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
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John Bohner
{K:8368} 7/31/2004
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Roger - I like the cropped version more, In the cropped image the water wheel dominates the image like it should. Also the more distracting bright water to the left is gone. I think the moss coverd paddles deserve closeup of their own. Also the plant life on the bearing house deserves some attention. Good ridence to that little waterfall when you have a great wheel like this instead! jb
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David Morris
{K:1404} 7/31/2004
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It is hard to say, both are very good, but if pressed I would have to say the second, cropped, one. I think it brings me into what you were trying to shoot in the first place. I like the colors in the shot, and the second one brings them out more, and without the houses/condos in the first one, it is a more appealing image, IMO. David
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Roger Williams
{K:86139} 7/31/2004
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Here is the uncropped version. If you have a preference, I'd be interested to hear it. The leaning verticals of the wide-angle lens become a bit more obvious. The question is whether the extra detail enhances or inteferes with the image of the waterwheel itself.
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