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Kim Culbert
{K:37070} 1/23/2004
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Bill, I tried to tone them down in PS with some burning, but it didn't really do much. How would you eliminate them in PS? Is there something that you could help me with? I have since been back to this location and have found better light, so I know it can be done in camera... but if I could also salvage this image it would be great.
Cheers
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Bill Krul
{K:5597} 1/23/2004
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The colors and mood of the photo are great. I personally don't care for "hot" spots in photos and try to avoid them when shooting but if unavoidable then I eliminate them with photoshop.
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james mckenna
{K:6535} 9/11/2003
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creating slides from prints or negatives is not that expensive, and the quality can be excellent if you use a good scanning service. you can also create slides from digital files. if slide film gets you the results you want, then stick with it. but if you want more control over your images, you can enjoy the freedom of print film and/or digital manipulation and still produce the slides your markets want.
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Kim Culbert
{K:37070} 9/10/2003
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I will have to try metering on both the highlights and the shadows on two different shots and see if maybe that's where my problem is with overcast days! Thanks for the suggestion!
As for shooting print film... although I am far away from having a stock portfolio of images, I am trying to shoot only slides so that when I get those good pictures I can sell them. All the magazines that I've looked into will only accept slides so it's a waste for me to use print film, unless I'm trying out different techniques with my camera. I don't believe that print film gives you more control, only that it's more forgiving when you mess up! *grin*
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james mckenna
{K:6535} 9/10/2003
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coming back, i noticed that you write about overcast light dulling colors. i've never shot slides, so i can't be sure, but i think the problem may be that you are metering for shadows, which makes the midtones too light and blows out the highlights. color is mostly in midtones (notice the rich green in the fern at lower right in this picture). on an overcast day, you'll be tempted to overexpose, but better to underexpose a little and darken things down. with the light lower and more diffused, shadows will have more detail anyway, and you'll get better color.
i highly recommend shooting print film instead of slide. you have much more control over the final image. color-photography purists hate this, but they're after some sort of holy grail that i don't buy into.
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james mckenna
{K:6535} 9/8/2003
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perfect light would be overcast, since the sky is irrelevant for this picture. also, overcast light is duller and will reduce your contrast so you can see into the shadows without losing highlight detail. your greens will come out better, too. having lived in the olympics a long time ago, i have a great fondness for the northwest. i visited a couple years ago, and encountered many of the same problems you're having capturing its somewhat overpowering beauty. i learned quickly to spend a long time asking myself "where's the picture?" because the feeling i was trying to capture often arose from a complex of what i saw around me and my own sense of what the scene meant to me. often i would simply look through the viewfinder and move the camera around in all directions, trying to find the "picture," the little slice of the place i could capture in a single frame. i found that chosing a definite subject--a fern, a stump, a fungus, a rock--and composing the scene around that subject resulted in the most satisfying picture. and, although color is beautiful, i found my b/w photos were better, more accurate images of what i felt i had seen. have you been to ranger hole, on the duckabush? with its secluded beauty, it is one of my favorite places in the world.
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Toni Martin
{K:5092} 8/25/2003
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Kim, this came out very good. It is so hard to get this right with the sunny highlights and the dark shadows. I tried one and it was nowhere near this successful! Keep up the good work! Kim, try to hide your hot spots behind a tree. It helps with the flares. I guess you already know that!
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Becky V
{K:9699} 8/24/2003
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Unfortunately, I feel the same way about the hotspots and flare as you do, which is too bad because otherwise it's a nice pic. I particularly like the composition. I don't know how you did it. When I'm in a dense forest like this, I get overwhelmed and find it difficult to find something particular enough to shoot. But you did an excellent job of it here.
How about coming to the trail in early morning or late afternoon on a sunny day? Then you'll get highlights, but they won't be exactly overhead and burning with the intensity of a thousand supernova suns. :p Hope we get some rain soon so you can get back out onto the trail . . . .
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John Hatziemmanouil
{K:40580} 8/24/2003
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Just great! Very nice mood for watcher's eyes so a lovely photo in emotional appeal. Here the clarity is very good so the details of the leafs. Lighting cannot be better for my taste! Good one! Best regards and thanks a lot for the interesting about my last!
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Kim Culbert
{K:37070} 8/23/2003
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Sorry, forgot to mention that this IS with a polarising filter... when using Velvia in forest situations, I always use my polarising filter to get the most out of the greens (reducing the glare of light on the leaves and such). I have tried this on an overcast day, and will scan and attach the pic when I find it. The light is too flat and the colours don't have enough punch. So, I'll just keep trying in different situations!
Thanks for the comments Kajo and Andrew... it's nice to get some feedback!
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andrew vonbank
{K:2811} 8/22/2003
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"Perfect light" might be an overcast sky in this case, Kim. But you can't always count on nature to cooperate when you're hiking through the woods, either. You've got a really nice forest scene here, though. The colors seem a bit too saturated, which may account, in part, for the blown-out highlights. I know it's tough to reduce the sunlit whites in this situation without overcompensating in PS. Beautiful image nonetheless. Peace.
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Kajo Buzek
{K:1459} 8/22/2003
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very nice place and very good pic. by my opinion in the future try to use the polarizer. you can avoid the overexp. places.
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Kim Culbert
{K:37070} 8/22/2003
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Okay, so the blown-out highlight on the left (tree stump) DOES bother me....
and the lens flare it too bad...
but other than that, I'm thankful for the colours in this image.
Thanks for taking a look Gene and Dionysus.
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Gene Provost
{K:147} 8/22/2003
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Colorful deep woods feel to it. Very nice.
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Dionysus Winer
{K:763} 8/22/2003
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I like composition, I like light! Very good photo!
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