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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/27/2009
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So I think that some more variations are the thing I should also try, Andre, changing DoF and point of focus gradually and also systematically. In such cases it is rather hard to state any "rules" before simply trying, I guess.
Thank you very much for the hints.
Nick
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Andre Denis
{K:66327} 11/26/2009
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Hi Nick,
To answer your question, I've seen lots of nice floral images where the main "star" flower is sharp and the secondary flowers gradually fade in focus. It is all so subjective anyway. It's always good to try all kinds of shot to help you make up your mind.
Andre
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/21/2009
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Exactly, Stan, and this is also why we still keep on moving. There can be no such thing like a "dead end" in photography, I mean. And surely I also get surprised so many times. And then there is curiosity, why and how die it happen, and so you are just about getting yet a new excursion in this fascinating world. And yes sir, it might also mean that we will always have more and more work to do for understanding what is going on, but thanks heavens it is this way. It only means that we will never be at such a point of perfection on which everething is know known and everything has been already done, ey? It is much like being a fascinated student all of of my life.
Cheers!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/21/2009
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Thanks a bunch for the so detailed and good comment, Andre! This is what comments should be, exactly the way you and Stan did it! This is what I call a *living* forum, a place of ideas and exchange! Thanks a lot for that!
Using such a wide aperture of f/2.8 immediately could also eat up some of the sharpness on the main subject, the flowers. So I think that you are indeed right but the exact adjustment of aperture is matter to simple experimentation, until one has the whole background softened uo but still the whole main object intact.Here we have indeed such a "busy" background and so the aperture could be opened further. I surely will retry it and go for narrower and narrower DoF, that is, but I will also have to watch out for not softening up the flowers themselves too. Or perhaps... do you think that allowing one of them to not really be in focus would still produce a good image?
Thanks once more!
Nick
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Stan Hill
{K:35352} 11/17/2009
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I think that some post work can make or break an image at times. Rarely do we get an image that is exactly what we thought we might have captured. That is what makes the process fun. I try to visualize my results as I am shooting, boy do I get surprised sometimes. Either I have comme close to my expectations or I have created a good chuckle for the imperfection of the shot.
be well, stan
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Stan Hill
{K:35352} 11/17/2009
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I think that some post work can make or break an image at times. Rarely do we get an image that is exactly what we thought we might have captured. That is what makes the process fun. I try to visualize my results as I am shooting, boy do I get surprised sometimes. Either I have comme close to my expectations or I have created a good chuckle for the imperfection of the shot.
be well, stan
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Andre Denis
{K:66327} 11/17/2009
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PS to my last comment.
I recently posted an image of an Eagle perched in a tree. The foilage behind the Eagle posed exactly the same problem as this image. I think my Eagle image suffers exactly like this one. Distracting background. I did go as low as I could with the Fstop, to try and isolate the bird. But I guess the colour combinations, harsh light and distance between the leaves and the bird were all against me.
I might have been better off without the teleconvertor and F4. But, I didn't have a lot of time to change the lens.
Andre
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Andre Denis
{K:66327} 11/17/2009
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Hi Nick,
I think Stan has the exact right suggestion for you to achieve your stated goal of isolating the flowers from the background foilage. Concentrate the sharp focus on the white flowers and go even further open on the aperture to F2.8 or as low as possible. By doing that you will easily create a nice soft bokeh blur of the background. That will do two things at least. 1 make the white flowers stand out from the background. 2 Make the background foilage much less distracting. As it is now, the image is too "busy". The burning is a great idea too. Put it all together and I think that is when you will see the most improvement.
Andre
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/16/2009
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I think the same about the burning, Stan. So I have to try to do that while shooting too, by adjusting slightly differently...
I know you were referring to my Hassie. To say that I am "happy" for the good luck I had in finding it at such a price, well... that would be really too little.
Cheers!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/16/2009
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Bubai, your "excellent" doenst't have a content to me. You just say it.. I could post anything and you would still say just "excellent". So, I don''t think that you look at images. You only write "excellent" and you think that this is enough for me to pay attention to your... "comment"?
You can write "excellent" as many times as you wish. For me... that was it! I don't consider such "comments" anymore at all.
Cheers!
Nick
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Stan Hill
{K:35352} 11/15/2009
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Looks great, it does help see the crisp highlights of the flowers much better. Great touch up. Yes I was referring to your Hasselblad and was taking the word shortcut as an affectionate name for a fine camera as that. My best always!!
be well, stan
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/15/2009
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And beautriful monochrome thanks, Kallol!
Cheers!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/15/2009
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Thank you very much, Dave!
Sometimes, when the flower will appear white over the dark leaves, the B&W seems to work quite well.
Cheers!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/15/2009
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Thanks a lot, Stan! Do you mean something like the attachment?
Anyway, indeed I found a friend in Hassie. ;-)
Cheers!
Nick
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Burned top a bit and cloned strong highlight there |
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/15/2009
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Thanks a lot, Yazeed!
Nick
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Aungsita Chatterjee
{K:19843} 11/15/2009
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EXCELLENT.........
BUBAI.
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Kallol Majumdar
{K:27691} 11/14/2009
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Beautiful monochrome work...
Best wishes
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Dave Stacey
{K:150877} 11/14/2009
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An excellent b/w floral, Nick! The main subjects stand out well from the background, something not so easily done in b/w.
Dave.
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Stan Hill
{K:35352} 11/14/2009
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Achieved goal, nice pop to the hibiscus flowers. Would like to see this at f5.6 too!! Maybe burn the upper left just a little, the light at top is distracting. You have found a friend in the Hasse!!
be well, Stan
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M jalili
{K:69009} 11/14/2009
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Just excellent ...........
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