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Photographer AJ Miller  AJ Miller {Karma:49168}
Project #40 Street Photography Camera Model Casio EX-Z850
Categories Street
People
Candids
Film Format Digital JPEG High
Portfolio Belgrade
Lens Built-in
Uploaded 4/2/2007 Film / Memory Type Digital ISO 50
    ISO / Film Speed
Views 736 Shutter 1/250
Favorites Aperture f/2.8
Critiques 29 Rating
5.74
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Location City -  Belgrade
State - 
Country - Serbia   Serbia
About I’ve CC’d this because I would like some advice. I’m reasonably happy with the subject and composition (and anyway I can’t go back and shoot it again…) So, how can I improve this shot by reprocessing the original (which I will post below)?

The processing (PSP9) on this version uses crop, unsharp mask, desaturation and contrast/brightness.
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There are 29 Comments in 1 Pages
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Jerzy Bartkowski Jerzy Bartkowski   {K:3768} 4/24/2008
Great, I like it

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G G G G   {K:61359} 8/16/2007
Nice street shot AJ.. and street life or life in street with its reality.
Nicely done.
Cheers

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reza goudarzi reza goudarzi   {K:7097} 7/20/2007
tierd and dramatic portrait..good capture...i wish he will be happy by his way...
regards,
reza.

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Leonie Fitzpatrick Leonie Fitzpatrick   {K:40551} 4/9/2007
AJ... :))) I lean on the side of what I see is mighty fine Sir...:)

BUT...

Don't be afraid to play in PS AJ... :))) So long as you have saved the original and work on a copy...

As Doyle and Jan have said... You will be amazed at what you discover... It will give you many options on how the image *feels* to you... Especially like the one above, where your minds eye is telling you it seems to want *something* extra... Is it that you want to make the trio of man, pole and bottle to *jump* forward*... or are you unhappy about the scene as a whole???...

For myself, the story is the condition of the gentleman and his *pedastal*, the bin... the condition of the pole with it's *pedastal* and the bottle in-between... :)))

Extra nice Sir...:)

Onie...

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biljana mitrovic biljana mitrovic   {K:48110} 4/6/2007
Dear AJ your photos have a big value,realy mean that...and you are great photographer(if somebody with my expirience may say that:)
And I'm just daydreamer who want look life from better side:)))
big hug from Belgrade
biljana

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metoni . metoni .   {K:24727} 4/6/2007
Great shoot

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Srna Stankovic Srna Stankovic   {K:172232} 4/6/2007
I did not meant anything wrong about this capture, it is good street photography and you can see those guys in any other city. Also your shots has not to be typical beautiful spots of Belgrade. You are the photographer and you catch what your eye is pleased to catch :)where ever you go :) !!!
Hugs AJ,
Srna

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AJ Miller AJ Miller   {K:49168} 4/6/2007
Srna: plenty more shots - in fact, I find the city has many fantastic photo opportunities and I really enjoy the short periods when I am free to wander around. I will upload more in due course, although they may not all be from typical beautiful spots of Belgrade!

AJ

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AJ Miller AJ Miller   {K:49168} 4/6/2007
Biljana: yes, of course you are right, and I certainly do not wish to portray a negative image of your city. I have several shots that I would like to post eventually, though I guess they are not generally of the typical beautiful spots of Belgrade. Nevertheless, I hope they may have some small value as photographs.

AJ

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Srna Stankovic Srna Stankovic   {K:172232} 4/6/2007
AJ ... hm ... any other shots from Belgrade ?! :)
Hugs
Srna

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Ann  Van Breemen   {K:13399} 4/6/2007
Hi John, I think you already have a killer image. If anything just up the contrast a tad. Otherwise a great street image.:)

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Dirk Noort Dirk Noort   {K:9683} 4/5/2007
Excellent..well done!
Dirk.

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biljana mitrovic biljana mitrovic   {K:48110} 4/4/2007
Hey,AJ ,I hope you make also picture of beautiful thing in Belgrade :) we are in transition and we have many troubles but I think we have a many beautiful things:))))
no hard feelings my dear friend:))))
hugs from Belgrade
Biljana

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AJ Miller AJ Miller   {K:49168} 4/4/2007
Doyle: what, you mean the rest of the UF world already knows all this stuff? Oh my, I didn't realise... Hey ho!

Anyway, I've just arrived back in MY own world for a few days, so hope to get a chance to play around a bit. I took quite a few shots of people in Belgrade that I think would make good B&W images, so I will play around with the ideas that you and Jan have put forward, and with a bit of luck will come up with that killer image!

AJ

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biljana mitrovic biljana mitrovic   {K:48110} 4/3/2007
May I tell you that I like your version!??/
I like it
hugs
Biljana

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Doyle D. Chastain Doyle D. Chastain   {K:101119} 4/3/2007
John:

Like the curves . . . and experimenting is the only way to see how they help. Just so you know . . . I have found a very slight S shaped curve seems best . . . I've never had need for the reverse S shape.

Set filter layer to color . . . B&W layer to normal . . . though I suppose you could look with trial and error. Also . . . when setting about to adjust midtones and highlights which is always needed after desaturation . . . make sure to be on the image layer beneath the filter . . . adjusting ON the filter or B&W layer will have no effect.

Kinda' basic John . . . I feel confident you can do it! LoL! Easy for me to say having done it over and over......huh?

Any more issues, please feel free to e-mail so we don't bore the UF world!! :)

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~

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AJ Miller AJ Miller   {K:49168} 4/3/2007
Many thanks, Jan. Ah yes, curves. Something else I've never played with and don't know how to use. I suppose I should just experiment...

AJ

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AJ Miller AJ Miller   {K:49168} 4/3/2007
Hi Doyle: I had a quick look at your suggestion last night and see how the concept should work. I set it up in PSP9 but unfortunately I didn't seem to be able to get the two layers to work together - maybe I've got an option or default incorrectly set somewhere. I'll have another look but in the meantime, what blend mode should I use for the B&W layer? (I haven't quite got my head round blend modes yet and so am not sure how important this might be...)

AJ

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AJ Miller AJ Miller   {K:49168} 4/3/2007
Thanks Marian! Actually, the guy looked much happier a few minutes earlier when he was in full song...

AJ

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Mahboubeh Zare Mahboubeh Zare   {K:1201} 4/3/2007
this is very nice.and coposition and mode is very better the original.it's got deep feeling.i like it's.thanks mahboubeh.

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Marian Man Marian Man   {K:80636} 4/2/2007
ok ok do whatever the experts suggest but I like this one, the compositon is excellent, although it makes me feel sorry as I believe that this guy does not have anywhere else to sit.....
all the best
Marian

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Jan Hoffman Jan Hoffman   {K:39467} 4/2/2007
AJ -- I like the street shot pretty much as it is and agree with Doyle that his suggested work-flow approach gives you a lot of flexibility as well as the ability to see a number of effects non-destructively.
The picture as you have posted it shows a lot of "street grittiness" and seems to draw out the character of the fellow sitting on the pillar. I like it.
Two things I would have been tempted to play with:
1. I would have looked at a strong vertical crop (narrower & taller) as an alternative with the street names showing above his head.
2. Another possible look-see would have been a slight tap on the CURVES Adjustment to increase the "snappiness" of the picture. It would be worth a try to just to experiment with that a bit.
I would not sharpen it any more than it is now.
--Best to you, Jan

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Gianes Ma Gianes Ma   {K:26069} 4/2/2007
A very interesting situation.
An excellente street portrait.
Congratulations.

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AJ Miller AJ Miller   {K:49168} 4/2/2007
Hi Doyle: now THAT is the sort of comment I was after (though you had me nervous for a minute!)

Thanks so much for taking the time - it is very much appreciated. I will certainly investigate the procedure you suggest and let you know how I get on - although it will probably be a few days before I get a chance as I am travelling this week (as you may have guessed from the location of this image...)

AJ

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Doyle D. Chastain Doyle D. Chastain   {K:101119} 4/2/2007
I gotta be honest with you John . . . regardless of how painful the truth might be. I . . . like it! The composition is really very good, in my opinion, and the unsharp mask was applied without being over applied and it doesn't seem to have left any issues to clean up.

As far as suggestions for improving it I can suggest, if you haven't already done so . . . perhaps a filter at about 60% strength . . . red, green, whatever . . . experiment to see how it affects the shot.

This workflow worked when I used PS-E4 and a variation might work for you too . . .
Step 1: Make a new Hue/Saturation layer above the BG layer. Don't make any changes to the default settings for this layer. If you double-click the layer, you can re-name it 'Filter'. Set the mode of this adjustment layer to color.

Step 2: Make a second Hue/Saturation adjustment layer above the filter layer and alter the settings so saturation is -100. Double click and rename this B&W Film. The monochrome image now on screen is what you would get in a standard desaturated color image.

Step 3: Double click on the left thumbnail on the filter layer and move the hue slider. You should be able to observe changes in the B&W image (unless the preview box is not checked . . . though it IS checked by default) . . .This changes the way the color values are translated to B&W. Here too . . . moving the saturation slider can emphasize certain portions of the image.

So if you haven't done it, experiment (and watch the effect) with these sliders - then hit OK. Use CTRL Z and CTRY Y (Undo/redo shortcuts - may vary) to flip back and forth between before and after effects . . . make sure you like the change. If yes . . . end With CTRL Y . . . if No . . . end with CTRY Z.

If you've already looked into this . . . uhhhhhh . . . Never mind! LoL!

Oh, incidentally, I like it as is!

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~

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AJ Miller AJ Miller   {K:49168} 4/2/2007
Hi Armando! Thanks for taking the time. Having worked on this image quite a bit already, I guess my real concern is how far to push the various processing tasks. How far should I push the sharpness? How far should I push the contrast? etc. Or is there something I could be doing that I'm not? I get the impression that maybe I'm a little bit too conservative in processing and should maybe push things a little further...

AJ

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ARMANDO ALCÁZAR ARMANDO ALCÁZAR   {K:42404} 4/2/2007
I make some changes in ps2 shadow/highlight and a little dharp, I hope you like it.

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Maja Š Maja Š   {K:17951} 4/2/2007
Dear AJ.. I could suggest you to use picasa2..it is much easier than photoshop..you could straighten the pillon..increase highlights..add glow..put effect like film grain..(photo below)
but your photo is great street photo and only you can improve it on your own way..

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AJ Miller AJ Miller   {K:49168} 4/2/2007
Here's the original...

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