Jeroen Wenting
(K=25317) - Comment Date 1/16/2005
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Every Nikkor ever produced with the F mount (which every Nikon SLR since the 1950s uses) will fit (except a few oddities like an old fisheye or two).
Anything that doesn't have a D chip will mean you loose most light metering modes though, so you'll have to fall back on manual metering (maybe some others still work, but matrix and flash metering won't).
Of course you'll also loose autofocus if you attach a manual focus lens.
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Andre Denis
(K=66327) - Comment Date 1/17/2005
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Thanks for replying Jeroen.
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Nelson Moore [Kes] -
(K=20241) - Comment Date 9/19/2006
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Hi Andre -
I "googled" the phrase "what lens fit nikon d70" and this thread came up! HA!
Ok then, I have a D80 and am waiting for a Nikon 18-200 VR lens...not telling when it will arive. In the meantime, the search is on for a cheap lens. Maybe if I drill a hole in the lens cap I can use the D80 for pinhole photography! (...hmmmm....)
With the info above from Jeroen, I'll look for a "D" (or DX?) designation on the lens. I see a lot of 18-55mm reworks on ebay - scary, but cheap. If I had the dough the 12-24mm looks nice.
Any suggestions?
Kes
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Andre Denis
(K=66327) - Comment Date 9/19/2006
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Hi Kes,
I wrote this quite a while ago, and have confirmed what Jeroen said in his reply. I was and still am interested in picking up a D70s. The kit comes with a nice 18-70mm I believe and the prices are coming down all the time. I have a nice 70-150 macro zoom with a two times multiplier that does a decent job on macros as well as telephoto shots. I have been assured that I would have to operate any of the old lenses completely manually. But that's no big deal. Just real old time photography anyway :)
I've been putting off this purchase for so long now, I feel like a real miser. Along with the D70s would come the purchase of a new pc as well to handle the larger downloads quicker. I'm feeling like a real dinosaur right now. Would you believe I'm still using a Pentium 2 with a tiny little 2gig hard drive and Windows 98?
I've got to make the jump to the next millenium soon :)
Andre
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Jeroen Wenting
(K=25317) - Comment Date 9/19/2006
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Kes, a good cheap lens would be the 50mm f/1.8 AF-D. Cheapest lens Nikon makes (something like $100) and very good quality.
Or the 35mm f/2 AF-D. Bit more expensive but to me more versatile.
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Nelson Moore [Kes] -
(K=20241) - Comment Date 9/20/2006
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Hi Jeroen, that 50mm was suggested at by my camera shop also, but they were out of stock at the time. I might just go that route.
Thanks!
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Nelson Moore [Kes] -
(K=20241) - Comment Date 9/20/2006
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Hi Andre, well, the Pentium 2 is ok, that's our "back" pc that runs through (in some magical way) our "front" Pentium 4. And with a dial-up Internet connection I notice a little speed reduction, but not too bad.
I meant "no telling" rather than "not telling" in my previous comment. I really should use a spell checker.
When I bought the D80 there were two available: a body only package and a body + zoom lens - an 18-135mm I think. If I had been thinking, I would have taken the body/lens combo, ordered the 18-200 lens, and then sold one on ebay later. Nikon is so bad about getting new stuff out that I could have probably broken even due to demand.
Oh well. I feel pretty bad about buying a new digital camera anyway. The suckers gonna be obsolete in six months, whereas that old Rolleicord I picked up awhile back will still be an old Rolleicord in six months! But it will be a fun 6 months!
lol, so if it takes three months to get the 18-200......
Hopefully, the autofocus will work better than my eyes! That manual focus is getting more difficult as I get not younger! :)
Kes
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Nelson Moore [Kes] -
(K=20241) - Comment Date 9/20/2006
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Andre, to clarify the PC magic, somewhat, we have a lan setup between the two and the back pc uses the front pc's modem for internet connections.
Kes
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Andre Denis
(K=66327) - Comment Date 9/22/2006
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Hi Kes,
We do exactly the same thing with our pc's. Of course my two sons get the best of equipment, while I suffer with the hand-me-downs :)
Andre
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Andre Denis
(K=66327) - Comment Date 9/22/2006
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Hi again Kes,
I know what you mean about buying new equipment. It is very hard to justify new digital cameras and lenses. Especially when we know how much fantastic work has been done in the past by some of the masters with very little in the way of fancy equipment. I honestly do believe that if you have some photographic talent, you can make it happen manually with one decent body and lens.
I still want to get a new Nikon though :)
Andre
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Nelson Moore [Kes] -
(K=20241) - Comment Date 9/22/2006
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Hi Andre, The hype of the D200 got to me and when Nikon put most of it into a D80 I jumped on it.
Of course the D50 would be a lot smarter investment, now around 1/2 the price of a D80, and I would guess the D50 will do 90% - 95% of what the D80 will do. Just a guess, but I've no doubt that it would be enough for what I need. In fact, it's tempting to sell the D80 on ebay and get a D50!
Then I read Ken Rockwells "Why Your Wife Wants You to Buy A Fancy New Camera (for men only)", and thought, What the heck!!!! 
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/wife.htm
-Kes
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Jeroen Wenting
(K=25317) - Comment Date 9/22/2006
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"I meant "no telling" rather than "not telling" in my previous comment. I really should use a spell checker. "
Spell checkers won't catch that, as both "no" and "not" are correct words :)
Grammar checkers might, but both are proper grammar as well so then again they might not.
"I would guess the D50 will do 90% - 95% of what the D80 will do"
Hardly. That's like saying an N55 does 95% of what an F100 does.
Sure you have a shutter and an aperture, film transport and a light meter.
Of like saying a VW Beetle can do 90-95% of what a BMW M5 does, as both have doors, wheels, and an engine.
But there's more to it beneath the covers of course. The performance, quality, etc.
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Andre Denis
(K=66327) - Comment Date 9/22/2006
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Hi Kes,
You have some valid points on the difference between the D50 and D200. I'll bet that extra 5% or 10% improvement accounts for more than half the cost of a D200.
Nice tongue in cheek article on Why your wife wants you to buy a fancy new camera. :)
I believe I paid $189.00 for my brand new Nikon Nikkormat in 1969. I also bought a brand new Toyota Corolla the same year for $2100.00
I still have the Nikkormat FTN and it is in perfect working order. I have no idea where the Toyota is now :) It might be recyled into a refridgerator or something.
I am very pleasantly surprised at the performance of my Fuji S5000. I only intended it to be my introduction to digital, but the damn thing works so well, I'm having a hard time justifying a nice new DSLR. I'll get around to it eventually. :)
Andre
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Nelson Moore [Kes] -
(K=20241) - Comment Date 9/24/2006
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Hi Jeroen, lol, my spell checker did catch "arive" when I tried it...I guess that wasn't a good idea at all! :)
It will be fun to play with the D80!
We had snow on the mountains with yellow leaves on the aspen trees...and I had a D80 with no lens!
That did it - I ordered a 18-55 lens today, while the wait for the 18-200 continues...
All the best,
Kes
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Nelson Moore [Kes] -
(K=20241) - Comment Date 9/24/2006
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Andre -
Yes, unlike the film cameras of the past, digital cameras are "throw-aways". Makes the purchase difficult to justify, for sure. I know that staying up with the latest technology in camera equipment is beyond my means!
It seems this may be how the local photo lab stays in business, by selling us new cameras every couple of years. Then again, it seems like the camera prices keep dropping, so perhaps that won't be the case.
Recently, Popular Photography had an article about Sony's new Alpha 100, a 10mp DSLR. They are addressing the issue of sensor dust and it has built in image stabilization. Also, it might use Konica-Minolta and Minolta lenses.
Kes
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Jeroen Wenting
(K=25317) - Comment Date 9/24/2006
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A DSLR is a throwaway only if you let yourself get swepped up in the idiocy of the marketing induced replacement madness.
There's no reason that camera shouldn't be good for a decade at least, if that is you make sure you keep the hardware and software to process its output.
Camera prices won't drop much further I think, though there might be expansion of digital cameras into ever lower market segments (including real single use digicams replacing the single use film cameras now sold).
Manufacturers are starting to hit the lower boundaries of what they can charge while still making a profit.
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Andre Denis
(K=66327) - Comment Date 9/28/2006
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Hi Kes,
People can get very drawn into keeping up with technology and hype when it comes to photography. Every now and then, you just have to step back and ask yourself what is really important when making images.
There is a common sailing term that I learned from a friend of mine. He says all sailors end up catching One-foot-itus. There is always a bigger, better boat out there that makes yours look too small. Same with cameras. :)
Andre
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