Phillip Cohen
(K=10561) - Comment Date 6/27/2005
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Can't fool mother math! Basically you want a 5:4 ratio for a 10x8 inch print. If you crop the image so that you have that ratio you will be able to fill an 8x10. Your 3000x2000 is a 6:4 (3:2) ratio so you are way off. You would have to crop your image to 2500x2000 or some other lesser size based on the ratio of 5:4 to fill your 8x10.
Phil
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Lea Mulqueen
(K=7396) - Comment Date 6/27/2005
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Andrea, Philip is right. But to put it another way: digital cameras use the same format as 35mm film cameras. And, the 35mm format will get you a 4X6 or a 5X7 or an 11X14 full frame. 8X10's always require cropping on the long side. Experienced photographers who know they may need to make an 8X10 print frame for it in the camera when they shoot the frame. Just pretend there are 2 fat people on each end of the long side and include those imnaginary people. You then have the extra room needed for cropping to 8X10. Hope this helps!
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Matej Maceas
(K=24381) - Comment Date 6/27/2005
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Why don't you just print them 10" on the longer side, 6.7" on the shorter side and cut off the unused 1.3" of width?
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Chris Hunter
(K=25634) - Comment Date 6/28/2005
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Digital SLRs use the same aspect ratio as 35mm - 2x3 so a 5x7, 11x14 or 8x10 will all have to be cropped.
I do my prints as 8"x12"s - so they do not have to be cropped. That is what I would reccommend you do as well.
My print sizes are typically 4x6, 8x12, 10x15, and 16x24 - all w/ no cropping.
Chris
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Andrea Harris
(K=2496) - Comment Date 6/28/2005
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Where do you have them printed that you can get a custom size made like that? I guess you could call that custom size (since it's not traditional)? Also once you get that size, do you have to have it custom matted and framed? I've thought of purchasing all this equipment myself to matte/frame them at home - I wonder how I can get them custom done without exuberant prices? Thanks for everyone's replies.
Also, should I change something on my camera settings so that I can make perfectly 8x10 sized photos if that is what my intentions are for?
Thanks again,
Andrea
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Cheryl Ogle
(K=24494) - Comment Date 6/29/2005
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Chris, since you are seasoned I'll direct this to you because I suffer the same issue as Andrea. Can you add to the canvas to make it right?
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Andrea Harris
(K=2496) - Comment Date 6/29/2005
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Thanks Chris. I did the 8x12 perfectly. Now I just need to find a place where I can matte and frame pretty cheaply with that size. Maybe a Hobby Lobby craft-type place? I'm also checking out printing places right now, most of the typical places don't have custom sizes, but I guess I should go to the professsional labs anyway. There is only 1 in Memphis and they aren't online yet, so that's a good 45 min. drive from where we live; I'm also checking out a lab in Michigan that's got all their online stuff worked out well.
Thanks again, I will also try to 2 fat people on the sides thing now :)
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Chris Hunter
(K=25634) - Comment Date 7/7/2005
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sorry to take so long to get back, but I had major comp. problems recently.
...EZprints com has all these sizes listed above (and a whole lot more), in three different finishes.
You can find ready made 8x12" mattes online, as well as 12x16" frames to fit.
The 5x7"/4x6" frames and mattes are no problem, even at Micheals.
For my 16x24"s I get the matte cut with exterior diminsions of 20x28", and Micheals carries ready made frames and glass at the same size. My total cost for a finished 16x24" is around $50 - not too bad.
I would reccommend establishing realtionships with some of the local framers, but try to do ready made for everything under and including 8x12"
But also remember some advice I was given by a local framer...if you concentrate on the matting and framing too much, your time counts as well, and hours will be spent running around matting and framing prints. This only takes time away when you could be out shooting. And people are buying the image...if they like it enough they will frame it. Not saying don't matte and frame everything - just don't let it take up more time then it should.
Chris
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Andrea Harris
(K=2496) - Comment Date 7/7/2005
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Thanks Chris! Great advice!
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Cheryl Ogle
(K=24494) - Comment Date 7/24/2005
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Hey Andrea - I just ordered from MPIX.com and they have great prices with great quality - they offer the metalic paper too. I did the mounted 8x10 ordered 9 for $55 after ship and tax. Great quality and they also offer 8x12 prints. Just thought I'd let you know. Cheryl
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Amanda Radovic
(K=3609) - Comment Date 5/23/2006
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you will never get your camera to shoot as an 8x10 but it is easy to overcome by simply allowing a little extra room in your composition when shooting. I never shooot too tight and that way the enlargement to 8x10 works well. Unless you plan to enlarge to poster size then resolution shouldn't be a problem.
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Alejandra Figueroa
(K=849) - Comment Date 11/7/2006
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I once also asked this question and someone told me to copy the image on to a new 8x10 canvas and that worked. When I need to print images I upload the 'new' image, the one on the 8x10 canvas, and they look fine. My question is whether or not it looses quality from doing that. Does anyone know?
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Richard Dakin
(K=12915) - Comment Date 11/9/2006
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What Chris said is VERY good advice. If you really want/need to stick to 8x10's and 11x14's for some reason (I have 1 store that prefers these sizes???), I have found that shooting with the subject in the middle of the frame helps. I know that this is not artistically sound, but then you can crop from either side to improve your photo's composition and still fit your 8x10 requirements. Thus for a given study, I will shoot 1 image artistically and 1 subject-centered. I have found that in most cases customers actually prefer the 8x12's when given the op to see both.
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Jeroen Wenting
(K=25317) - Comment Date 11/9/2006
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What works better is cropping the image to the right aspect ratio yourself in postprocessing before sending it to the printer.
That way you're in complete control, and don't have to limit your compositional choices to some rather poor ones.
Stores prefer the classis sizes because that's the size paper they get from their suppliers, and that's what their machines can handle without extra work.
If they must change the size, they must buy more expensive custom sized paper and modify their machines to use it, or print everything (at high cost) on larger size paper and cut every print by hand to the desired size, highly expensive for the customer.
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Roger Jefferson
(K=277) - Comment Date 8/4/2007
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If you're using a D70, you can turn on the grid overlay to help you with composing. You can find the grid overlay option under the custom settings menu.
If you compose within the central part of the grid area you should be able to crop to the standard sizes without chopping off anything important, since anything outside of the central square won't be vital to your composition.
Hope this helps.
Roger
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