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  Photography Forum: Digital Darkroom Forum: 
  Q. Epson 2200 and streaks

Asked by Peter Iccabazzi    (K=0) on 9/22/2004 
I have a 2200 Epson connected to a G4 Mac. My paper of choice has always been Illford Smooth Pearl and I have been able to print with no problems. Recently I bought a box of Illford Classic Gloss,(in the blue box) and I'm getting streaks on the image from where the guide rollers hit the paper before it exits the printer. I'm using Illfords profiles and following every instruction to the letter. Has anyone had this similar problem and found a good work around?


    



 Mark Melton   (K=15) - Comment Date 12/18/2004
I am experiencing the same problem with an Epson 2200/Mac G5/iPhoto combination. When I use Epson paper (either the roll paper or single sheets), everything works great. However, when I use HP Premium paper (either matte or glossy), the rollers cause streaks as the paper exits the printer. I have also noticed that there are fewer streaks for the sections of the picture that have more time to dry before hitting the rollers (e.g if you pause the printing). My impression is that the problem is related to the interaction of the different types of paper and the ink. My short term solution is to use the Epson paper, but I would feel much better if there was a better explanation of the problem and how to avoid it.





 Harvey Guikema   (K=313) - Comment Date 12/20/2004
I have the same problem. Roller marks on the paper.
It doesn't matter what paper I use.





 Dmitry Gringauz   (K=1157) - Comment Date 12/27/2004
Roller streaks may point to a couple of problems.

First one is ink/paper incompatibility. High-end Epsons work best when used with Epson's own inks and paper. The paper coating allows the ink to dry before paper exits the printer, thus inhibiting streaks. Make sure you buy your Epson inks from a reputable source, there is plenty of counterfit stuff out there that may cause streaks and more severe problems. If you are using non-Epson papers, you might try reducing ink density sligtly by manipulating curves in PS, or disabling high-speed printing (option in the driver). One and/or both will allow ink to dry faster before printed portion reaches the rollers.

Another possibility is screwed-up print heads that feed too much ink. That is something that Epson tech support should be consulted on. I believe that this problem is rather infrequent.

Yet one other thing to ponder: the type of ink that is used by 2200 dries well on paper, but not on the rollers. I.E., once you get it on the rollers, it takes a lot of cleaning to get it off, so some of what you are seeing might just be residual stuff.








 Adam E. J. Squier   (K=9803) - Comment Date 12/27/2004
Peter, the original poster, wrote that he tried Ilford Classic Gloss paper in his 2200. This paper is not compatible with the pigmented inks in that printer. What he should use is Ilford's Smooth Gloss, which is designed for Epson's pigmented inks.

The "Classic" line is for dye inks only, which covers almost every other manufacturer's inks (and most of Epson's, too). The "Smooth" line is for the pigmented inks of the 2200, R800, and a few others that can use those inks. The "Smooth" line also works on dye inks, but not as well as the "Classic" line.





 Peter Iccabazzi   (K=0) - Comment Date 12/27/2004
Anyone want to buy a box of Classic Gloss!





 Peter Iccabazzi   (K=0) - Comment Date 12/27/2004
As I delved into Ilfords website more, I found the information you have posted. Thanks for the info, want some Classic Gloss??





 Adam E. J. Squier   (K=9803) - Comment Date 12/27/2004
Where are you located? I don't normally print glossy photos (I don't usually print out my own, anyway) but it might be fun to try on the Canon S9000.





 Peter Iccabazzi   (K=0) - Comment Date 12/27/2004
Salt Lake City, UT





 Albert Vega   (K=15) - Comment Date 9/14/2005
Peter, looking at the date of the postings, it's been about a year since your roller streaking problems. Do you have any info on solutions for someone encountering this problem for the first time? I've also noticed that I have old ink (possible cause?). Any help would be great!




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