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  Photography Forum: Philosophy Of Photography Forum: 
  Q. Intoxicants and photography

Asked by Anonymous     (K=0) on 3/13/1999 
A previous post touched on this topic and I believe it worth of expansion. Have any well known photographers recognized intoxicants as helpful in creating their images? I'll assume that a large difference exists between depressants (alcohol, sedatives, etc.) and hallucinogens. I cant imagine depressants being helpful. What has been your experience?

My only experience with hallucinogens is marijuana & its use lead to rolls of film where I discarded 95% of the pictures. Usually with comments like... "Why did I take that picture? Did I really need 14 different shots of that leaf?" I got a few very interesting images, but for me shooting when stoned was a waste of film & time.


    



 Tony Rowlett   (K=1575) - Comment Date 3/13/1999
A tall pint of dark beer, a single-malt scotch, and a good stink-bud joint all make for some excellent... hmm, I forgot what I was going to say.





 Phil Stiles   (K=143) - Comment Date 3/13/1999
I once heard a jazz musician say "pot don't help you play, but it do help you hear." So I find it best to save intoxicants for looking at finished prints, if at all. It's more of an appreciation thing, doesn't help with production. I can imagine a variant of Robert Capa's famous axium on combat photography: "If my pictures aren't good enough, then you're not high enough!"





 Lot    (K=1558) - Comment Date 3/14/1999
I agree with Ellis and add: maybe it's better to be stoned when you watch your pictures made in sober state and then you'll find out that only 5% was not worth the effort.





 Darron Spohn   (K=781) - Comment Date 3/15/1999
My experience is that alcohol makes it more difficult to shoot. At the Kerrville Folk Festival I had many more keepers when I quit drikning while working. Most of the problems I had when imbining were not being able to hold the camera still in low light. Maybe a monopod woulod have helped, but I was working too fast to use one and hand holding a 200mm lens at 125th is difficult enough when sober.

As far as hallucinogens are concerned, I do not remember taking any. Just remember the current Apple ad campaign and "think different."

And Tony, next time you're in California look me up. I always have plenty of single-malt Scotch in stock.





 Trib    (K=2701) - Comment Date 3/15/1999
Cough cough caaack,......(h)ere' take this...ccuuh ccchhuuhh, oh um what was the question again?





 Tony Rowlett   (K=1575) - Comment Date 3/15/1999
Darron, sounds like a plan! Something I highly enjoy; sippin' on good quality stuff and having good quality camera conversation.

I think a single drink can enhance candid photography because it removes inhibition somewhat.





 Howard Creech   (K=3161) - Comment Date 3/15/1999
Photography is intoxicating enough, no need for additional stimulants. A nice buzz is it's own justification.





 Pico diGoliardi   (K=1327) - Comment Date 5/31/1999
Chemicals never, ever helped my visual work. I thought it did at the moment, but the illusion passed with the withdrawal of the substance. One startling discovery was under acid (LSD), where _everything_ was profoundly transformed _except_ my photographs. Others' photos were seen anew (for the duration), but mine were like windows full of the moment they were made; thoughts, smells, sensations, intentions embraced by the frame, unchanged. And disheartening! Then.

Not to wax romantic over the tradegy of alcoholism, but many writers seem to have retained a special facility for language while under the influence, even through protracted periods of withdrawl & reuse. I take it to point to something about the nature of western language, and the state of the sense of the literature of experience back then which was largely self-centred and, in my humble opinion, a precursor of the birth of the Me Generation. As Hunter Thompson said (and I hate him),"I cannot honestly recommend drugs and alcohol to young people today, BUT IT WORKED FOR ME." That era is passing. I hope.

But photography - no, best done with a clear head full of intent.

-- Pico




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