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  Photography Forum: Photography Help Forum: 
  Q. metering and filters for snow photography

Asked by Lynn Moore    (K=1059) on 2/18/2005 
Would someone please give me some advice on metering and filters for snow photography in the Alps? I have read various suggestions and would like more opinions.
1. Do I need to compensate by 2 or 3 EV?
2. Should I bracket or not?
3. Will a poloriser be useful?
4. I will be taking Velvia slide film and 200 iso print film do the EV settings differ for slide and print film?
5. Any other suggestions?
Thank you all for anything you can advise me on...!!


    



 sean slavin   (K=3488) - Comment Date 2/18/2005
1) you can do a couple of things on metering. you can meter off the palm of your hand and then open up at least 1 stop, maybe 2. you can take a grey card, meter off of that and then open up at least 1 stop, maybe 2. you can meter off the blue sky above the horizon and then open up at least 1 stop, maybe 2. depending on the weather conditions, you may be shooting everything at +2.

2) if the shot is important to you, bracket.

3) yes, take a circular polarizer.

4) which velvia? the 50 or the 100? you will still need to overexpose by at least +1 or +2.

5) have fun.





 Lynn Moore   (K=1059) - Comment Date 2/18/2005
Thanks Sean for the useful advice.... its velvia 50 iso so I know I will need a tripod and I thought maybe if the scene is special then only bracket for that. I was thinking along the lines of +1 EVfor normal conditions and +2 EV for bright sunny conditions. Thanks once again you have confirmed what I was thinking. I have never been anywhere like Switzerland before and have never seen alot of snow either so I want to get my pics right while I'm there!!!





 Neil Dolman   (K=26883) - Comment Date 2/19/2005
Hi Lynn, Sean's advice is pretty good. It all comes down to not blowing the highlights. Bracket is of course always a good answer. If you need tp know anything about Switzerland, just ask. I live there :)
Best wishes Neil




Patrick Ziegler
 Patrick Ziegler   (K=21797) - Comment Date 2/22/2005
Lynn:

Some good advice from sean.

When your camera's meter sees white it want's to expose it as 18% grey. That is why you need to over expose to get the snow white again. This is great if the snow is your subject. If you are shooting a person against a white snowy background you will have to spot meter your subject to get him or her exposed correctly. This could result in a very over exposed background. The Circ. Polorizer can help with this as it will cut down the amount of reflected light coming off the snow. Best to avoid the situation all together if possible.

Bracketing can eat up alot of film but if you are uncomfortable with how to expose it may be a good idea

Your meter does not know the differnece between print and slide film. But you do need to be more acurate exposing slides.

Know your camera and how it meters. Some cameras will spot,(center weighted) meter in manual and do an evaluative metering in shutter priority or apature priority.

If you can, shoot a test roll or two and find a local 1 hour photo and have prints made. hopefuly they will be able to do the slides in a timely manner and not have to send them off. Perhaps you can find a local photographer who can handle the slides manualy.

Have a great time. whish I was going on a shoot in the Alps......







 sean slavin   (K=3488) - Comment Date 2/22/2005
lynn,

if you shoot the 50 @ 40 (pull -1/3), you'll get really good color saturation. you can also push +1/3 (shooting at 64) if you need a little extra speed. for most of my surf stuff, i usually shoot the 50 @ 64. it handles the contrast really well that way (bright sun, blue sky, bright white water). you may want to try a few of rolls both ways.

sean





 Kurt Pas   (K=2267) - Comment Date 3/10/2005
Lynn,

As a mountain climber I'm very often in the Alpine landscapes. With my new Nikon F75 that I started using last summer, I fount out that the camera suggestion was mostly fairly good. I did some bracketing, but the suggestion of the camera was the best choice.

The camera was set to Central weight metering and aperture priority. To measure the light I mostly pointed the lens to 50% sky and 50% snow.

I hope this will help.






 George Chene   (K=318) - Comment Date 3/10/2005
I particiapted in a winter workshop in Yellowstone a couple of years ago. The advice given for exposing a snow covered scene was to meter the sunlit snow (fill the view finder with snow only) and open up 1 1/2 stops. For an overcast day, open up 2 full stops from the meter reading of the snow. This was done with Fujichrome 50 and 100 at the rated iso. I was very pleased that the texture of the snow was preserved.



Two Tops Mountain



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