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  Photography Forum: Photography Help Forum: 
  Q. Converting to B&W

Asked by Jim  Hudek    (K=0) on 9/1/2004 
Can people tell me how/what steps you are taking to convert color images to B&W? I've shot with fuji S2 Pro before and now that I am shooting Canon 10D I have to convert in Photoshop. All I do is use desaturate. Ive tried the IMAGE>ADJUST>CHANNEL MIXER routine but quite frankly that jsut doesent do it for me. I have to say that I believe there is no comparison to B&W images shot with Fuji vs. Canon 10D converted to B&W. In the test shot photo I have posted there is a very dark spot on my right temple. I shot with a single strobe. That image looks aweful...cannot seem to get gradual tones in some shots. Also, the image of the girl sitting with a Skyy bottle was a shot I did with Fuji S2 Pro. See the difference! Can someone please tell me of an alternative process and or software for this.


    



 [[dead account]]   (K=6692) - Comment Date 9/1/2004
I make a new layer with the image, go into the channels palette, then copy the red, green, and blue layers into a new PSD document in individual layers, then I'll make the best looking one a base and mix the other 2 on top of that.





 Stephen  Bowden   (K=64141) - Comment Date 9/1/2004
Jim, have you tried the Photokit plugin for Adobe ? I know it is more of an outlay but this is a fabulous plugin that offers colour to B&W conversion as if you are using a variety of differnt filters. It also provides dodge and burn tools, image sharpening, noise removal and a whole host of other options.

Alternatively, I wonder what setting you have your 10D on ? I wonder if it is shooting in raw or if it has an "on camera" adjustment set ?

Just a thought !

Hope this helps,
Steve





 Scott McFadden   (K=5663) - Comment Date 9/3/2004
I am a little lazier than the above people.
Not too say its a bad process though.
The show channels thing works for me then choosing the appropriate colour I simply choose image mode greyscale.
Of course then I strangely convert back to rgb to tone as I like.

I have tried colorize but it was difficult to keep a consistant pace, finding the right colour was always tricky.

The channel mixer gives me so little extra that rare is the time I find it helpful.

Desaturate really is too limiting though.






 Oliver Suhr   (K=38) - Comment Date 9/13/2004
There are different ways in PS to convert:
- tranfer to modus LAB and switch off the a & b channels. But you cannot save as a jpg anymore...
- in the channel mixer with button "monochrome" = yes
- In Hue & Saturation you can set down the saturation.
- you add a new layer, fill it with black and use layer modus saruration or color. You can also use different nuances of black or dark brown...
regards, Oliver







 Kelli Evans   (K=356) - Comment Date 9/14/2004
The best way I find is to open Channels (in RGB mode), then go to your drop down menu and choose Split Channels. It will give you 3 different versions- just pick the one you like best. I find this method gives more contrast options.




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