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Thilo Bayer
{K:50358} 10/19/2004
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Dear Gayle,
Venice is kind of interesting at night. you will find a lot of lights near the water but not in the streets ;-)
kind of creepy.
take care,
Thilo
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Gayle's Eclectic Photos
{K:91109} 10/14/2004
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WOW! i like what the 800 speed film did..great grain,DOF,sharp focused framing sign..and how you framed this shot..i would have thought the alley would have been dimly lit?..most of ours in the city are too dark!...regards,gayle
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/11/2004
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Yes you are right! Both would be good.. i also like the alternative version more and more as well. Great images! =)
Keep it up Thilo!
Patrick J
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Thilo Bayer
{K:50358} 10/11/2004
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Hi Steve,
thanks for your opinion. I'm glad that I obviously chose the right picture =)
take care,
thilo
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Thilo Bayer
{K:50358} 10/11/2004
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Dear Roby,
thanks for the kind words. Venice is really fun to photograph, very inspiring and "productive" =)
take care,
thilo
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Thilo Bayer
{K:50358} 10/11/2004
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Dear Arwa,
I'm glad you like the narrow feeling I tried to create with this shot.
thanks again for your feedback,
Thilo
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Thilo Bayer
{K:50358} 10/11/2004
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Dear Patrick,
nice to hear controversal feedback =)
actually, I do "crop" the shadow with the camera not with Photoshop. With a longer shadow the composing would be very much different. So probably both version make sense in some way =)
thx for your critics,
Thilo
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Thilo Bayer
{K:50358} 10/11/2004
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Dear Hugo,
first of all: thanks for the creative rework ,-)
While I do like the off-centering of the sign, I think the more centered person is something I wouldn't go for... hard decision: replace sign centering against person centering ;-)
thx for the precious feedback my friend,
Thilo
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Thilo Bayer
{K:50358} 10/11/2004
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Dear Pedro,
thanks for the valuable comment. glad you like the first version =)
take care,
thilo
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Stephen Bowden
{K:64141} 10/10/2004
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Fabulous composition Thilo - the grain is excellent and creates a perfect mood :-)
I prefer the original one !
Best wishes,
Steve
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Roberto Arcari Farinetti
{K:209486} 10/10/2004
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ciao amico mio..
anotehr amazing shot of venice. the love venice!
this one have a excellent perspective and also the magic tones, that with the DOf have created a magic atomospehere!!!
many comngrats and wishes..
roby
7+
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arwa abdullah
{K:34415} 10/10/2004
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the sign effectively frame and confine the blurry man
which gives the same sensation felt when walking in the narrow small streets of Venice
wonderful image!! 7+++++++++++++
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/10/2004
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I need to add... i like the alternativ better.. if it was blurred out like the first one!
Cheers
Patrick J
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/10/2004
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Wish you had cropped it abit less.. so we could see more of his feets and the ground there.. Then it would have been perfect in my eyes! I still like it alot though. great blur, composition, colors and light.. =)
Cheers
Patrick J
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 10/10/2004
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Hi Thilo, Interesting to read your considerations. Especially the statement that the sign works as a frame. That was not what I had in mind...;o)
I think the sign is the primary subject in this shot. The shallow DOF, creating only a vague image of the scene behind it adds the tension here.
As to the second remark, that one is more difficult to assess, as the considerations strongly rely on your options, for which one needs to be there, as they don't show in this shot.
I agree with the decision of minimising the strong shadow, though. Also, mainly because of the shallow DOF, the person does become a natural part of the scene. The tension I mentioned becomes a part of the atmosphere.
The atmosphere provides a bit of an uneasy feeling, something lurking in the dark, ready to pounce. Maybe that atmosphere could be emphasised even more by breaking the alignment you created with the even frame left, right and on top. In the attachment, you'll see what I mean. Maybe The crop could be even more extreme. I tried to emphasise the atmosphere by removing the symmetry in the natural frame created by the walls and the sign.
In the second version, the person becomes more dominant, resulting in an entirely different shot / mood, so I can only conclude you made the right choice here. It has less tension, IMO. Also the primary subject has changed from the sign to the man.
Cheers,
Hugo
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Paolo Longo
{K:4570} 10/10/2004
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I prefer the picture you posted first with background out of focus!
"Calle del clero" means, you know, "Clergy lane" and then, in your first shot, it appears as a close space...
Congrats again
pao.lo
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sunrise
{K:6651} 10/10/2004
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I like very much... seems magic, like in a dream...a like the colours and perspective...
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Thilo Bayer
{K:50358} 10/10/2004
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Hi Verena,
danke für Dein Feedback. Ich fühlte mich beim Fotografieren auch etwas wie ein Spion ;-)
LG,
Thilo
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Thilo Bayer
{K:50358} 10/10/2004
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Dear Antontio,
thanks for delivering the translation of the street ;-)
Next time I will hunt for a priest =)
thx for your comment,
Thilo
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Verena Rentrop
{K:15233} 10/10/2004
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Hi Thilo,
also ich bevorzuge die gepostete Version, für mich sieht es aus wie ein kleines Fenster am Ende einer Gasse durch das Du wie ein neugieriger Spion in eine fremde Welt schaust. Die Fremdheit wird für mich noch verstärkt durch die Unschärfe vermittelt.
Liebe Grüße
Verena
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Antonio Trincone
{K:23167} 10/10/2004
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this is very nice for composition governed by the DOF and light I appreciated it very much; if you were lucky enough to find a clerk walking around it would fit very well with the name right in focus in the upper part of the shot: "Road of the priest" :)
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Thilo Bayer
{K:50358} 10/10/2004
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I upload an alternative which I didn't find as interesting as the posted one. Here the focus is on the person/street so that the sign is out of focus.
Would be glad to know which one you'll find more interesting =)
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