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Roger Williams
{K:86139} 6/2/2004
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Thank you, Mary Sue. Now that I cannot be active on Usefilm, it is very nice to get comments on photos that have been up for some time. I thought sepia was, er, "for the birds," but I quite liked what it did for this photo. I thought it simplified the over-busy look of the colour photo (which is what I think you mean by saying you "had a hard time looking at it."
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Mary Sue Hayward
{K:17558} 5/31/2004
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Roger, I like the more sepia version of this one, but also like the color and milder sepia toned versions. I had a bit of a hard time looking at this because there is SO much information. It is like a treasure trove of texture and light.
Well done!
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Jani Salvataggio
{K:27283} 5/20/2004
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wonderful image!!!
great lighting!
regards
Jani
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Roger Williams
{K:86139} 5/8/2004
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For me, Matej, colour either works when I first see the image or it doesn't. I seldom get any joy from playing with the colour balance or the individual colour channels (apart from unthinking colour balance correction, which I've mentioned to you elswhere). It's just a morass of subjective judgements and I soon get tired of playing with all the combinations. The colour version of this photo just doesn't work for me. (I'll attach it here.) You're right about the lack of a specific focus or point of interest... it's more a record of what I saw and liked. I probably do too many of those--or at least upload too many of them! I DO rather like it in mild sepia, though...
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Matej Maceas
{K:24381} 5/7/2004
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It doesn't look like sepia to me, either - my idea of sepia is closer to what John posted.
Regardless of that, I'd like to raise the question whether B&W (toned or not) is ideal for this particular photo. Insofar as I can imagine it, I would expect the colours to be the strongest element of this scene, conveying a sense of being in nature, with fresh clean air, peacefulness and so on. With the colours removed, I start looking for a specific subject - and cannot find one that naturally dominates the scene by way of placement, texture, light or otherwise.
If you are not opposed to cropping, I would recommend cutting off a small slice along the right edge of the frame, so that the bit of tree intruding into the sky just below the top right corner is removed.
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Roger Williams
{K:86139} 5/7/2004
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Hmmm. That's a LOT more than I was willing to consider, John. Must admit that it looks pretty good though. I'll remember that for future attempts. This is why Usefilm is so valuable...
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John Bohner
{K:8368} 5/7/2004
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Okay - I'll weigh in on this one Roger. On my screen the sepia tint is quite weak, narly non-existent. I did sepia in my dark room days before the smell drove me out. You can always adjust the amount of tint, even chemically but I would vote for more - in fact - here it is attached. - JOhn B
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The Armed Eye
{K:3563} 5/6/2004
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Roger, this is one of the best tree shots you have posted ever, I LOVE it ! It'sso hard to do such a shot properly but you did it. Very nice play of light and shadows, and the Skopar manages very well to catch all the tiny details which must be caught to make such a photo work. Using 35mm for such a shot works only with the best of the good and the Skopar belong to them. Sepia is wisely chosen, leave it as it is.
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Enjoy
{K:16125} 5/6/2004
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I think this one is well done...but I just prefer color as your work is always so beautiful and colorful.... I do like this one the best out of the three in the toning...
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Roger Williams
{K:86139} 5/6/2004
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Antonella, I think you're right about it being a bit on the bright side. It looked fine at home last night, but today at the office it's not quite right... Hmmmm. Still, it'll have to do for now. I've got too many pictures stacked up waiting for uploads to repost anything! But I'll definitely play around with it a bit more when I can find the time. Sepia is pretty new to me, as I've said... Who knows, I might come to like it, just as I've come to enjoy taking people photos more than I ever thought I would... All thanks to Usefilm friends. What a great place! (The rating system sucks, though. Got to agree with you there.)
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Antonella Nistri
{K:21867} 5/6/2004
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Roger,to me it looks sepia,I can definitely tell the difference with a BW. Maybe that's my LCD monitor,but it looks a tiny bit bright.
In any case my rating is 7 because I think it's fascinating and I LOVE the perspective!
Many congrats,Antonella
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Roger Williams
{K:86139} 5/6/2004
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That's funny, Chris. Rob Ernsting says "you cover the whole spectrum of sepia tones" and you say "it doesn't appear to be very sepia." On MY screen it's about as sepia as I could stand... [g] The Color Skopar 35/2.5 lens is a real cracker, though. At its best it looks like MF even up to 8 x 10" prints.
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Michael Sean Fleming
{K:2267} 5/6/2004
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Roger, In my opinion this is one of your most beautiful images (and that is saying a lot considering your portfolio. The texture of the water in the foreground is subtle and realistically 'wet'. the composition is right on, the small section of path or road on the left gives the scene a sense of scale. I can imagine that the actual print is truly breathtaking.
Congratulations
Sean
P.S. Thank you again for all of your encouragement and constructive criticism, for someone just starting out like me it is very much appreciated
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Roger Cotgreave
{K:15892} 5/6/2004
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excellent shot Rog maybe you could try making a copy and playing with the blend filters such as multiply, soft light and overlay...very nice..rog
PS I don't think we go anywhere we just change...This is it
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Chris Spracklen
{K:32552} 5/5/2004
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Beautifully sharp picture, Roger, but (on my screen at least) it doesn't appear to be very sepia! More B&W!
Kind regards, Chris
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Rob Ernsting
{K:8899} 5/5/2004
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Too bad I am not en expert either on sepia or B/W. I think you cover the whole spectrum of the sepia tones with many nice details, tough with all the leaves and shadows. To me a 7, Roger. Rob.
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