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  Photography Forum: Philosophy Of Photography Forum: 
  Q. Doyle, Rina, Gayle and Marcus! Others please stay out....
Marcus Armani
Asked by Marcus Armani   Donor  (K=36599) on 4/19/2007 
Here is the new posting area LOL>.


    


Gayle
 Gayle's Eclectic Photos   (K=91109) - Comment Date 4/19/2007
bahahaaahahhahahahahahhahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
"sometimes you feel like a nut,sometimes ya don't!" TM = Trademark since not my own little ditty...hehehe

sup?,oh fun-knee man?




Gayle
 Gayle's Eclectic Photos   (K=91109) - Comment Date 4/19/2007
ok, since you failed to provide the BG info as to why you felt the need to start this, as usual i will have to pick up the slack...LOL..
here is where it all began:http://www.usefilm.com/Image.asp?ID=1288356

Your choice of topic since you placed this in the Philosophy of Photography Forum, dude! ;) :)




Caterina  Berimballi
 Caterina  Berimballi   (K=27299) - Comment Date 4/19/2007
Sweet Jesus.

What the blimmin heck is going on???




Marcus Armani
 Marcus Armani  Donor  (K=36599) - Comment Date 4/19/2007
This was basically to stop doyle and gayle from using my photos as a playground LOL>.But since you asked what do you think about that thread going on about the IS THIS LEGAL, candid street photography???





Caterina  Berimballi
 Caterina  Berimballi   (K=27299) - Comment Date 4/19/2007
Not sure what to think in reality. Which is why I kept my big nose out of it.

See, I have this photography book called "The Complete Photography Course" by Michael Joseph and Dave Saunders. From 1993. It's old-ish but does include some tips for digi cams as well. Anyway, there's a whole chapter on candids, children in particular, and the images included as examples of "happy snaps" depict children in varying degrees of nudity... as well as "bum shots".

To me, as a noob, I read these books and try to learn as much as I can, and I take these examples as being photography norms. So I'm not particularly shocked to come across similar pics on the web....

I'd have to understand what Lucas L's intention was though, before I could pass judgement. And since he hasn't joined the discussion, I'll never know for sure.




Doyle D. Chastain
 Doyle D. Chastain  Donor  (K=101119) - Comment Date 4/19/2007
My answer . . . short and sweet . . . over-reaction. (EXCEPTION) - Children used in shots of sexually suggestive comments or images . . . and THERE ARE those (IMGO).

You, Marcus, are a genius!

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
(Nose half-way up due to 'fear')




Marcus Armani
 Marcus Armani  Donor  (K=36599) - Comment Date 4/19/2007
Jesus Christ, OK which UF mod deleted my post??? This site is rediculous...
I cant give my opinion of UF members without probably Jeroene deleting it?
If you want to kick me off the site Like P Said just do it!
dont coward behind your keyboard.....
Lets take this outside of UF to my message board.
I cant stand UF Mods.




Doyle D. Chastain
 Doyle D. Chastain  Donor  (K=101119) - Comment Date 4/19/2007
Deleted? Join the club. I've had about twenty deleted the last couple of days . . . Due to UF auto-filter though!

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~





Marcus Armani
 Marcus Armani  Donor  (K=36599) - Comment Date 4/19/2007
Well My was posted and I even re-read It, then poof gone LOL..
I have a message board that I never had time to install on my site, so its never been used, armani2@comcast.net for the private link LOL




Doyle D. Chastain
 Doyle D. Chastain  Donor  (K=101119) - Comment Date 4/19/2007
Which UF member? Not Moi?

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~





Marcus Armani
 Marcus Armani  Donor  (K=36599) - Comment Date 4/19/2007
you and the gucchi twins should be getting an email shortly, though they seem to have gone missing...




Doyle D. Chastain
 Doyle D. Chastain  Donor  (K=101119) - Comment Date 4/19/2007
Ok . . . have only a few hours before I have to go to work so will have to sleep soon.

Doyle I <~~~~~




Caterina  Berimballi
 Caterina  Berimballi   (K=27299) - Comment Date 4/19/2007
Check your noticeboard.




Gayle
 Gayle's Eclectic Photos   (K=91109) - Comment Date 4/19/2007
uhh...i read your now deleted comment,Marcus, because it showed in my inbox and dude,you were kinda off the hook with some language which i think i recall being included in the George Carlin list of what is not allowed by law to be said on TV (exception HBO and PBS),and in print...an oldie but a goodie routine of his....hemingway,don't hold back,Marcus,...LOL...just tell us all what you really think!

;)




Gayle
 Gayle's Eclectic Photos   (K=91109) - Comment Date 4/19/2007
Armani calling cookie and i "Gucci" ?...Rodeo drive not our stomping ground,dude!...who put a bee in yore bonnet today?...hehehe




Doyle D. Chastain
 Doyle D. Chastain  Donor  (K=101119) - Comment Date 4/19/2007
Uh oh . . . Rodeo Drive is MY Romping Stomping ground!

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~




Gayle
 Gayle's Eclectic Photos   (K=91109) - Comment Date 4/19/2007
yo,marcus....am back...where you be?





 Chelsea Burke  Donor  (K=5750) - Comment Date 4/19/2007
It wasn't Jeroen, it was me. I'm not "cowarding" (the proper verb is cowering, by the way) behind my keyboard, I simply don't have as much time to spend on here as I'd like. I popped in last night and saw your unnecessary blatant expletive describing usefilm members, and removed it, simple as that. I'm curious...if you think this site is so ridiculous, and you think the majority of members are ******s, and you can't stand the moderators...why do you stay? I personally would be more than happy to boot you off the site, but it's not my call. I only have the power to remove childish insulting comments. And if this comment provokes people to start ranting and flaming, I probably won't be responding for a while, I have a life.




Marcus Armani
 Marcus Armani  Donor  (K=36599) - Comment Date 4/19/2007
As Do I, That doesn’t mean I cant come here once and awhile and blow off steam, Trust me I have good reason! The reason I’m still here is I do have friends here, Well some but a few as oppose to a couple of years ago before the big meltdown.
And I’m sure you personally would not mind booting me off the site that is the problem! Relations between the admin and the members, I think all members at one time or another (If they have been here long enough) get frustrated with issues they cant control.

I can remember a time when I used to join UF chat room to voice my problems, with either you, Hugo, Jeroen, Steve etc..
I also remember speaking to you about your problems, even things such as your septic tank.

Now if you wish to have Al or as Jerone says, don’t let the door hit me on the acs on the way out, Do what you have to do.
Unlike others that I have seen here, and do feel bad for, I will not be pushed around by a photo posting sites admin because they think there better then the users who pay the money that keeps this site running.
If jeroen would have emailed me as I suggested, or Al would have returned one of the emails I sent him, I could have voiced my issues with the Admin in private.

Its very strange but whenever admin has a problem with a member or his or her post, First, member gets a spelling lesson, then Its why don’t you get a life? I would ask the admin the same question.
You are on UF far more then I, Al doesn’t pay you, quoting another mod "he treats us like slaves”, so I should get a life? OK.

Well Chelsea, though I have only chatting with you for short periods of times, and not many times, I don’t have a problem with you, Al, Phil C, even Jeroen though he does have the occasional blow up, I think the core long time UF admin are doing and have always done a good job! My problem Is with a couple of mods put in place that I have worked with online side by side awarding for hours on end in the past, only to have them do things that I wont mention here, But I’m sure If Al, Phil or those with the power to kick someone off this site knew, they would not only have had there awarding privileges taken away but probably sent out the door also. Now to this day I still will not voice publicly the name or names or the actions in which brought me to a boil last night, but like I said all could have been taken care of with a simple email....

Anyway, There will be no ranting or flaming by anyone, and I ask here publicly for anyone who reads this or Chelsea’s post NOT to comment, For one It wont do you any good, and two though I have a problem with a couple of the mods, You do not.

Now if the admin does decide to show me the door, please have the courtesy to let me know a day in advance so I can download my P/F as some of the older photos I do not have on my local drive...
Regards...
Marcus






 Jeroen Wenting  Donor  (K=25317) - Comment Date 4/19/2007
I don't have your email or that of any other member (except Al)...
And I am not going to disclose my email to someone who's openly hostile towards me, you never know what they might do...

Read and shiver... http://headrush.typepad.com/whathappened.html




Marcus Armani
 Marcus Armani  Donor  (K=36599) - Comment Date 4/19/2007
Wow now that is really crazy! well you are right as far as posting your email, I a few months back gave you my email in the chat room to give to Al, But I guess It was a bit backwards for me to think you would still have it.
Jeroen do you really see me as openly hostile towards you?
If the reason is that I mentioned It was probably you who deleted my post, well that was not Hostility but me thinking you were doing your job, as another member mentioned who caught the post, it was out of line and should have been deleted, and I wouldn't have blamed you, and I don't blame Chelsea..

As I mentioned to Chelsea, you and the core group who I have chatted with at times are assets to UF, but when a mod is put in place that does idiotic things, It does reflect on the site admin as a whole, and It is not fair that a bad egg or two can make the hard working admin of UF look bad.
If anything I try to explain to unhappy members that there are many people behind the scenes here and they should not think poorly of all do to the fact that one or two mods have run amuck..

I have no animosity towards you, nor do I have hostile feeling towards you in any way, but you must admit as I did quote you, you have blown up on a couple of occasions which is to be expected as we are all human, But then maybe I shouldn't be quoting you as I guess I would not like to be quoted for something I said while being a bit irritated..
Regards







 Joe Johnson  Donor  (K=8529) - Comment Date 4/19/2007
"My answer . . . short and sweet . . . over-reaction."

I would disagree and say that the women who objected would be no different than those who objected to Cho snapping their own images. They thought it was creepy. I suggested, according to Piscopo's article, that privacy rights are retained regardless. You pointed out that you have a threshold when it comes to photos of children naked, or mostly, where the purpose appears purient. But that was one of the reason the women objected to this guy's photos, as well. Some of the girls might have been underage. You removed images of paper currency, as you noted in another thread. And you likely did that because you feared it might be against the law to post such images.

To Marcus, I'd say, I very much appreciate the quality of your bird photos. It shows how such ought to be done. And I think you inspire people to try to achieve that standard. I hope you stick around, and continue in that way.




Doyle D. Chastain
 Doyle D. Chastain  Donor  (K=101119) - Comment Date 4/20/2007
Joe, my first reaction was to point out that this string was specifically listed as for Gayle, Rina, Marcus and Doyle only. But I'm just teasing . . . these are four names that have hijacked more threads than a 19th Century seamstress!! LoL!

Besides - since all can read I appreciate you pointing out how it looks because appearance IS important. The reason it was for the four of us . . . Though Marcus did invite Jeroen and Chelsea . . . was largely because we were referring to some things not to be found here and too lengthy to explain.

You have misunderstood my post. I was asked what I thought and I wrote what I thought. You disagree? Seriously, you really don't mean to imply that YOU know what I thought more than I know what I thought do you? I suspect you're trying to tell me that you disagree with what I thought. Anyway, enough semantic gameplay.

Here's what I meant (and be aware our conversation continued in another forum outside UF) . . .

I was the one who over-reacted. What you may not have realized was this thread was (in my opinion) a conversation I thought was about me (NOT the thread we were discussing - THAT was about Lucas). In THAT thread, I apologized NOT once but TWICE and admitted my defensive glasses glazed over. The people I apologized to were most kind - BUT I did NOT feel I over-reacted when it came to my comments about the children.

Joe - I straight up admitted this was creepy stuff and, frankly, they HAVE EVERY RIGHT to complain and to suggest and to persuade . . . whatever. In the end, I was told basically that all that was being asked was a word to the ear of the photog by the staff. That's hardly an over-reaction!

Jeroen removed the currency photos . . . NOT me. I am NOT on staff . . . I have less power than you think around this place! Currency, however . . . is ILLEGAL . . . Lucas' shots haven't been found to be illegal.

Thanks for clearing up what may have looked like a misunderstanding . . . I certainly NEVER meant to suggest these girls, whom I very much respect, had over-reacted . . . only that I had. :) I was speaking to these three only and they (I think) understood. I can see now that it may not have been as clear to any others who might have read that.

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~






Caterina  Berimballi
 Caterina  Berimballi   (K=27299) - Comment Date 4/20/2007
F@$#!sake you guys. From now on, if it's not about aliens or superhero toys, leave me out of it please.





Marcus Armani
 Marcus Armani  Donor  (K=36599) - Comment Date 4/20/2007
Who rattled your cage hoochie mama, who started this idiotic thread anyway, oh me? Just say no to drugs LOL!!!!!!




Caterina  Berimballi
 Caterina  Berimballi   (K=27299) - Comment Date 4/20/2007
That's right, drugs are bad. It's getting close drinkies hour though.... I can smell it.




Gayle
 Gayle's Eclectic Photos   (K=91109) - Comment Date 4/20/2007
rivvie pup and i played in the sun at a park before sunset...they have a doggie water fountain there...

Jeroen, thanks for the nightmares! man, that link you dropped here was beyond creepy.....ewwwwww

Cookie, tell yore hubby Happy burpday for me...and hope you have a designated driver tonight!...hehehe

Doyle,like that seamstress line!...hahahaheeheehee

Joe, hi...nice of you to drop by our hood ;)

Marcus,feeling better?




Doyle D. Chastain
 Doyle D. Chastain  Donor  (K=101119) - Comment Date 4/20/2007
:)

It was inspires, wasn't it?

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~





Doyle D. Chastain
 Doyle D. Chastain  Donor  (K=101119) - Comment Date 4/20/2007
Stupic computer (inspired)




Caterina  Berimballi
 Caterina  Berimballi   (K=27299) - Comment Date 4/20/2007
Hope it's not trademarked. I plan to use it.




Meg Metcalfe
 Meg Metcalfe   (K=6114) - Comment Date 11/27/2007
I certainly NEVER meant to suggest these girls, whom I very much respect, had over-reacted . . . only that I had. :) I was speaking to these three only and they (I think) understood. I can see now that it may not have been as clear to any others who might have read that
----------------------
As one of those three Doyle....I for one understood. :)





 Chelsea Burke  Donor  (K=5750) - Comment Date 11/29/2007
Ummm...what are we talking about again? My crusty ol' memory is having trouble remembering back to April. We firin' up another argument? Let me adjust my glasses and see who I'm aimin' at...hehehe...




Marcus Armani
 Marcus Armani  Donor  (K=36599) - Comment Date 11/29/2007
I thought this thread was dead and buried, well Im not looking for any trouble;) But though it was a good Op to say hello, So Hello Chelsea, How are things way up north? Hope all is going well!!!




Caterina  Berimballi
 Caterina  Berimballi   (K=27299) - Comment Date 11/29/2007
Hello Marcus! Hello Meg! Hello Chelsea!

You know, I never really understood what the hell was going on with this thread in the first place. Now that I read back, I still don't get it.

I do know that there wasn't nearly enough blaspheming though...





 Chelsea Burke  Donor  (K=5750) - Comment Date 11/29/2007
Hi Meg, Marcus, Rina...

Going good here, 'cept that winter came early and it's darned COLD! Then again, cold weather brings frost on the windows that's fun to photograph, so I can't decide if it's a good or bad thing. I'll take my cup of tea and sit by the woodstove for a bit to comtemplate this. ;-)




Gayle
 Gayle's Eclectic Photos   (K=91109) - Comment Date 11/29/2007
whoa! talk about an oldie...hehehe...sup?,Meg,Cookie,Birdman and Chelsea....the rain is back and a tad nippy with snow expected in my area...my son bought his gal a Puggle for Christmas!...it is only 8wks old and they had to drive to eastern WA to pick him up early from the breeder...Puggles are hybrids with beagle mom + pug dad...don't even ask about the price!

yo,Cookie...i still owe you an email reply and will do that in a bit

cheers,gayle




Marcus Armani
 Marcus Armani  Donor  (K=36599) - Comment Date 11/29/2007
Wow, A Marcus Meltdown Reunion LOL... I guess I will never live it down, Rina confused? The reason you don't remember or cant comprehend from reading the thread over again Is that Chelsea removed my original post that started all this, which she had ever right to do as I had a major brain cramp and blasted everyone for no apparent reason????
Still don't know what I was thinking.
Its good to see everyone is doing ok, Rina, Gayle its been awhile?
A post from Doyle and then we can do it again in another 6 months LOL..
I hope you all had a great thanksgiving, have a great Christmas, and a prosperous new year..
Marcus (In Need Of Anger Management) Armani




Caterina  Berimballi
 Caterina  Berimballi   (K=27299) - Comment Date 11/29/2007
Not to worry Marcus, I live in a perpetual state of confusion!

Chelsea, you lucky duck, what I wouldn't give for a delicious hot tea by a cosy woodstove while it's frosty out *sigh*.

No pressure Gayle, this time of year is mucho busy for all. I'm here if and when ya need me :)

Gosh this has all turned very touchy-feely-emotional huh? Hehe, have a very Merry Christmas everyone!




Gayle
 Gayle's Eclectic Photos   (K=91109) - Comment Date 11/29/2007
LOL...true enough,Marcus per only needing the Doylester to show up...he should see this when wakes up in about 3 or 4 more hrs...he is up with the roosters,not down with the nightowls!...hehehe

hope your TGD was enjoyable,too and back at cha' per the holidays!

peace,G




Doyle D. Chastain
 Doyle D. Chastain  Donor  (K=101119) - Comment Date 12/1/2007
Better late than never, eh??? Alls well here . . . just stepping out for my birthday dinner . . . so y'all relive the good ol' days! Our holidays have been grand . . . and look to continue that way . . . (unless there's a meltdown in the making)! LoL!

Ok, Marcus was last - Rina's turn??

Stay well everyone . . . :)

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~





Gayle
 Gayle's Eclectic Photos   (K=91109) - Comment Date 12/1/2007
HAPPY HAPPY BURP-DAY,BAY BAY!!!...umm,is your BD Nov.30th,or Dec.1st. which shows on the UF date when you posted?...hope you enjoyed your day/night!

sending you virtual hugs n' kisses...love ya,gayle




Marcus Armani
 Marcus Armani  Donor  (K=36599) - Comment Date 12/1/2007
Yes A happy birthday to you Doyle! And a big Whatever to G, didnt hear a word from her on my birthday after I sent her nice card and 12 dozen roses on hers............

By the way did you guys see my new G/F? I took her out shooting with me for the first time..



I told her to pose by the water



Marcus Armani
 Marcus Armani  Donor  (K=36599) - Comment Date 12/1/2007
Then a sexy shot laying on the rocks



Then a sexy shot laying on the rocks



Marcus Armani
 Marcus Armani  Donor  (K=36599) - Comment Date 12/1/2007
Then the tragic Fall, though her hair caught her as she hung on for dear life..



oHHHH No



Marcus Armani
 Marcus Armani  Donor  (K=36599) - Comment Date 12/1/2007
well she eventually fell and lost her life, This has been hard on me but im getting over it......
poor luqusia :(



Poor Luqusia



Caterina  Berimballi
 Caterina  Berimballi   (K=27299) - Comment Date 12/1/2007
Marcus? You know, gingas have met with this demise for centuries now...




Doyle D. Chastain
 Doyle D. Chastain  Donor  (K=101119) - Comment Date 12/1/2007
Well Marcus . . . besides thinking she might be too good for you to begin with . . . I think she might have actually 'jumped' from the rock! Marlyce asked if you bothered to try to revive her!

Nov. 30 G-Meister. Oficially 29 yrs. old now! WooHooo!
:)

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~






 Chelsea Burke  Donor  (K=5750) - Comment Date 12/2/2007
Doyle...29??? Geez, still just a young pup.

Marcus, Marcus, Marcus...ya gotta take better care of the wimmin than THAT! Surely you knew that you shouldn't take a high-maintenance gal like that into the wilderness.




Marcus Armani
 Marcus Armani  Donor  (K=36599) - Comment Date 12/2/2007
Rina, Dont you know a Dye Job when you see one, I paid mucho dollars to get her that color, It was brown simular to yours, well I guess I better get over it and start looking for a new hoochie, any suggestions....




Marcus Armani
 Marcus Armani  Donor  (K=36599) - Comment Date 12/2/2007
Yes Doyle she was too good for me, such a fine person lost forever, there is a police investigation as they found a kick mark on her butt matching my shoe LOL..
wow you are 30 already? would have never guessed, what is the actual age when your allowed to start caculating in doggy years? ;)

Oh I did try to revive her but the head trama was just too much.....




Marcus Armani
 Marcus Armani  Donor  (K=36599) - Comment Date 12/2/2007
Well Chelsea when i met her she said she was the outdoor type and low maintenance, I should have known when it took her 2 hours to get ready, she was very hard to shoot anyway, always had the same expression




Gayle
 Gayle's Eclectic Photos   (K=91109) - Comment Date 12/2/2007
Marcus > "a card + 12 doz. roses" ???...what are you smokin' and can i have some? bahahhaaaaaaaaa

Your dolly pics remind me of the back in the day Mr.Bill episodes...of course the Doylster is too young to have seen those,so maybe Senor Santa will bring him the DVD collection...LOL...

Burn the shoes,Marcus!...hehehe...maybe you should join a birder club to meet a companion of like mind!

Woke up to snow today,but rain is on the way to wash it away...yay!

peace,ya'll ~G :) ;) :)




Marcus Armani
 Marcus Armani  Donor  (K=36599) - Comment Date 12/2/2007
Maybe it was a rose and 12 dozen cards, Im smoking Cigs, that is all the better half lets me smoke..... and now that my Mystres is gone nothing else, If you look there was a big pot leaf in her hair..
Birding girls ewwwwwwww....
The ones here all seem to talk more than shoot, and a list of other things I wont mention...........

/well atleast you get a white christmas, last year here it was like 70 degrees, hard to get into the spirit.........





Doyle D. Chastain
 Doyle D. Chastain  Donor  (K=101119) - Comment Date 12/3/2007
"Maybe it was a rose and 12 dozen cards..."

Maybe he just . . . ummmm . . . 'thought about sending them'. It IS the thought that counts!! :P

Psssst. Chelsea. I might be off a tad about that '29' thingie. You're only as old as you would tell people your age was if you didn't know how old you were! ...and you can never discount the potential for early onset senility! :P

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~






 Chelsea Burke  Donor  (K=5750) - Comment Date 12/3/2007
Well if we use that reasoning...I'm a young perky 22 year old! hehehe... Now I shall go forth and strut around and look for my offer of roses.




Doyle D. Chastain
 Doyle D. Chastain  Donor  (K=101119) - Comment Date 12/3/2007
See Perky? The world looks better already!! ;)

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~





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